random hi quality thoughts

Creation is the artist's true function. But it would be a mistake to ascribe creative power to an inborn talent. Creation begins with vision. The artist has to look at everything as though seeing it for the first time, like a child. To create is to express what we have within ourselves. We take from our surroundings everything that can nourish our internal vision. We enrich ourselves internally with all the forms we have mastered, which we set to a new rhythm. It is in the expression of this rhythm that the artist's work becomes really creative. Great love is needed to achieve this, a love capable of inspiring and sustaining that patient striving towards truth, that glowing warmth and that analytic profundity that accompany the birth of any work of art. But is not love the origin of all creation? Henri Matisse

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"Ideas won't keep; something must be done about them."

"Seek simplicity but distrust it."

"Periods of tranquility are seldom prolific of creative achievement. Mankind has to be stirred up."

"It requires a very unusual mind to make an analysis of the obvious."

"The art of progress is to preserve order amid change and to preserve change amid order."

"There are no whole truths; all truths are half-truths. It is trying to treat them as whole truths that plays the devil."

"Man can acquire accomplishments or he can become an animal, whichever he wants. God makes the animals, man makes himself."

"Not ignorance, but ignorance of ignorance, is the death of knowledge."

"There is a self-satisfied dogmatism with which mankind at each period of its history cherishes the delusion of the finality of existing modes of knowledge. "

"What is morality in any given time or place? It is what the majority then and there happen to like and immorality is what they dislike."

"When you're average, you're just as close to the bottom as you are the top."

"It is the duty of the future to be dangerous."

And the oh so true:
"If a dog jumps into your lap, it is because he is fond of you; but if a cat does the same thing, it is because your lap is warmer."

- Alfred North Whitehead

never knew a whitehead would be full of goodness. (sorry, lame)

Rational thought is based on perception and perception is by definition fallible. The only solution is carelesness and inattention. Or in other words: Follow your heart because your mind is an island in an ocean of infinity.
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Think for yourself
Question authority

Throughout human history, as our species has faced the frightening,
terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are, or where we are going in
this ocean of chaos, it has been the authorities, the political, the
religious, the educational authorities who attempted to comfort us by
giving us order, rules, regulations, informing, forming in our minds their
view of reality. To think for yourself you must question authority and
learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable, open-mindedness;
chaotic, confused, vulnerability to inform yourself.

Think for yourself.
Question authority.

-Timothy Leary
(& before Third Eye on Salival... By Tool of course)

"I like the idea of elitism when it comes to intelligence, because that’s a commodity that’s available to anyone. You can learn as much as you really want to. Obviously, some people are always going to be smarter than others, some people are mentally handicapped, but to be as smart as you’re capable is a fair and almost politically correct form of elitism. Fascism, when it comes to racism or sex, is too lenient. Accept all white people? There are lots of really ignorant white people I’d never consider my friend. Accepting all men wouldn’t work either. But intelligence is universal and anyone can achieve it by their own willpower."

"I think there's a danger with any great art, that if you begin to test your ideas on other people, and get their opinions before making decisions, or if you pay too much attention to what other people say about what you create, that it really pollutes your expression. I think that I'm much more about pure art and honesty and expressing exactly what I feel, and not caring so much what anyone says. However, I do respect, and I do pay attention to everyone's comments. And I do take them into consideration. But I don't base my decisions by it."

-Marilyn Manson

i've spent most of the day munching down banero chillis (the really fucken hot ones)...
i'm starting to think it wasn't such a good idea :(

Hear. Fucking hear, oberon...

What is it with cougers who spring philosophy into a forum which includes NZ music?

Ok dust, usually I agree with most you say, but if I want to hear all that shit I would go to some hippy drippy website.

Where is the deep meaning in D4, or High Dependency Unit ?

For God sake, this joint is getting to elitist and clever for me....

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man, this is the Bar no NZ Music content required.

surely you jest mr. pot! this is the bar... a free for all forum intended for, um well, whatever you like. To me music and bar conversations can go together.. usually drunken dribbles about whatever. For the more music oriented discussions we have 7 other forums...

Personally I'd love to see some more leftfield concepts, ramblings, and chaos happening here. Open up, let loose! And.. this topic ain't no hi-brow thang, its more pop-quotes from the lo-fi set. Besides I'm really stupid so I can only quote others....

>Where is the deep meaning in D4, or High Dependency Unit ?

i would argue that HDU are pretty damned deep actually ... not a lot of beer and skittles in their lyrics - personal struggle and angst, i mean, ya can't get much more deep than that?

i agree cleany.
i wouldn't compare hdu and the d4 for deep meanings

I get my info for the future from Mr Mojo Nixon and the fuckin' Skid Roper...

"The photo taking started in 1973 in South Edmonton, she was my first groupie. It was wonderful waking up with a pretty girl whose name you never know. None of that torture: where have you been? Who have you been with? Tourists take photos of where they've been," he shrugs, "I do too."
Gene Simmons claims to have bedded 4,600 girls, and taken a polaroid of every sigle one.

http://www.kissonline.com ]

ahh, the wisdom of gene simmons:

From

"You can dazzle them with bullshit, if you don't have the content, it's just style, and style without content is nothing"

To

"I fuck my brains out. I fuck everything that moves. And if it doesn't move, we work something out"

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"I fuck my brains out. I fuck everything that moves. And if it doesn't move, we work something out"
thats quite possibly the funniest thing I have read in ages.... thats gold, right there......thats the f**ken money shot my friends!

Think with your mind. Forget technology. Creativity is not device-dependent.
Bruce Mau

You may have been sitting at this computer too long.
Do you need to use the lavatory?

~Radiohead~

When two minds are always in agreement - one of them usually isn't working.

Oscar Wilde

"We're all lying in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars."
thats my fave oscar wilde quote :]

"Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony".

Tell me who said that...?

whoa.

dude!

Be excellent to each other. Party on, dudes.

there is no spoon..

morpheus ?

Yup - Morpheus:)

``We're living in topsy-turvy times, and I think that what causes the topsy-turvy feeling is inadequacy of old forms of thought to deal with new experiences. I've heard it said that the only real learning results from hang-ups, where instead of expanding the branches of what you already know, you have to stop and drift laterally for a while until you come across something that allows you to expand the roots of what you already know. Everyone's familiar with that. I think the same thing occurs with whole civilizations when expansion's needed at the roots.

``You look back at the last three thousand years and with hindsight you think you see neat patterns and chains of cause and effect that have made things the way they are. But if you go back to original sources, the literature of any particular era, you find that these causes were never apparent at the time they were supposed to be operating. During periods of root expansion things have always looked as confused and topsy-turvy and purposeless as they do now. The whole Renaissance is supposed to have resulted from the topsy-turvy feeling caused by Columbus' discovery of a new world. It just shook people up. The topsy-turviness of that time is recorded everywhere. There was nothing in the flat-earth views of the Old and New Testaments that predicted it. Yet people couldn't deny it. The only way they could assimilate it was to abandon the entire medieval outlook and enter into a new expansion of reason.

``Columbus has become such a schoolbook stereotype it's almost impossible to imagine him as a living human being anymore. But if you really try to hold back your present knowledge about the consequences of his trip and project yourself into his situation, then sometimes you can begin to see that our present moon exploration must be like a tea party compared to what he went through. Moon exploration doesn't involve real root expansions of thought. We've no reason to doubt that existing forms of thought are adequate to handle it. It's really just a branch extension of what Columbus did. A really new exploration, one that would look to us today the way the world looked to Columbus, would have to be in an entirely new direction.''

``Like what?''

``Like into realms beyond reason. I think present-day reason is an analogue of the flat earth of the medieval period. If you go too far beyond it you're presumed to fall off, into insanity. And people are very much afraid of that. I think this fear of insanity is comparable to the fear people once had of falling off the edge of the world. Or the fear of heretics. There's a very close analogue there.

``But what's happening is that each year our old flat earth of conventional reason becomes less and less adequate to handle the experiences we have and this is creating widespread feelings of topsy-turviness. As a result we're getting more and more people in irrational areas of thought...occultism, mysticism, drug changes and the like...because they feel the inadequacy of classical reason to handle what they know are real experiences.''

excerpt from 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance' - Robert M. Pirsig

I really should finish reading that book. It is a hard slog.

well worth the read. The second half realy twists your head.

what you have to understand is that sometimes things are the way they seem. by that i don't mean that they aren't the way they might be thought to be, beneath what you see, necessarily, what i mean is that... christ. i'll start this again.

sometimes, things are not the way they seem. you look at something and it seems straightforward, and you think you understand it, and it's only later you realise that the truth is different. okay: no prizes for observations so far.

sometimes, on the other hand, you look at something and you know already it's not the way it seems. you know because you understand what you're seeing, you're aware of the context and you realise that appearances are being deceptive. but sometimes, and this is the important sometimes, that's wrong. sometimes, when you think you're being deceived, you're not. sometimes things are the way they look, however surprising that may be. and sometimes that can make all the difference in the world.

let me put it another way. why does a journey always seem quicker coming back?
- only forward, michael marshall smith

A~Bad~Dream!
As the Gynormous, hidious, monsrous beast started slowly moving foward closer and closer to me I slowly eased back, trembling so much that I hoped that the beast could not smell my fear if he hadn't already seen it in my eyes. Suddenly the beast roared revealing his cruel bloody fangs , I gringed as i kept moving backwards even more petrified than before. The monstrrous best was blocking my path so I couldn't run anywhere, and by the look in his eyes i just knew he wasn't gona go easy on me. So I kept moveing back with each frightful step, one after the other not knowing that I was about to walk right off the edge of a huge vertical cliff.
All of a sudden the beast came to a halt. I looked into his dark, angry, mysterious eyes and siad "PLeaZe im begging you dont eat me! But the beast just stood there and gleared at me as if he was takeing one last lok at his living pray. The uncertain look in his eyes made me feel uneasy and nervous which forced me to take another step back.
Then frightfuly my feet flew up from under me, I quickly shut my eyes and screamed. I opened my eyes to find myself hanging on the edge of the cliff by the hood of my jacket, which was hanging tediously of a half rotten branch sticking out of the horryfying cliff. I looked down to see a 60 foot drop and jagged torn rocks with violent foaming waves crashing into them at the bottom.
As I hung there dangling from the hood off my jacket struggling to catch my breath, I realised that the beast 3was no longer above me it had simply dissapeared. I could hear the threads start to tear in my jacket. There was no time to do anything. suddenly I felt my self falling, as I felt the air from under me pick up speed I shut my eyes I was to scared to even scream. THUMP! I wake up to find my self lying on my bedroom floor after falling off the top bunk of my bed, what an awful dream.

just so you know, i didn't write this. i have no idea who did, but it was handwritten. i think it is very deep. and contains the best use of the word 'tediously' ever.

"He was a wise man who invented beer." --Plato

Who loves not wine, women and song
Remains a fool his whole life long

- Martin Luther

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"Do or do not, there is no try"

- Yoda

Ahh, a great warrior. Wars not make one great.

- Yoda

Eagles may soar, but weasels aren't sucked into jet engines

Sincerity is the key to success. Once you can fake that, you've got it made.

Two things I read at Gallipoli

"The mettle that a race can show
Is proved with shot and steel,
And now we know what nations know
And feel what nations feel. "
- Banjo Patterson

"Those heroes that shed their
blood and lost their lives ….
You are now lying in the soil
of a friendly country
therefore rest in peace.

There is no difference
between the Johnnies and the
Mehmets to us where they lie
side by side here in this
country of ours ….

You, the mothers
who sent their sons from far
away countries wipe away
your tears; your sons are
now lying in our bosom and
are in peace after having
lost their lives on this land
they have become our sons
as well."
- Ataturk

Until one is committed, there is hesitancy, the chance to draw back, always ineffectiveness. Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. All sorts of things occur to help one that would never otherwise have occurred. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favour all manner of unforeseen incidents and meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamed would have come his way.

Whatever you can do or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. Begin it now.

~ J. W. von Goethe

DO RE MI DRINK
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DOUGH... the stuff that buys me beer
RAY... the guy that sells me beer
ME... the one... who drinks the beer
FAR... a long run to get beer
SO... I'll have another beer
LA... I'll have another beer
TEA... no, thanks, I'm drinking beer
That will bring us back to (looks into empty glass) D'OH! ...

~Homer Simpson's beer song~

Wet carrots will rot.

"Don't want to talk about it.
No need to think about it.
Just step on up to the edge,
Then move on." - Shihad, It's a Go.

Yeah.

How much I have changed? How much do I stay the same? I am.