What is the great deal with zed.Zed are a bunch of puppets driven by Ray Columbus hand up there arse.They won't last in the US because they are a band of no culture and have a cleaner image than the Backstreet Boys.Infact, I wouldn't be surprise if one of them is taken out at the viper room for they lack of individuallity.


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If u met the guys i am sure u would ...
If u met the guys i am sure u would like them as well because they are really sweet. im not dissing ur favourite band and i might not even diss u if it was britney spears. no one will ever get along if u cant respect each others tastes and just agree to disagree. after all anyone who can make it that far must have at least some talent even the backstreet boys and trust me i hate the backstreet boys. oh yeah and ray columbus is also a really nice guy
to k8, I am involved in the industry ...
to k8, I am involved in the industry and I know what it takes to get some where,the problem that I have is the fact that the world stage is much bigger than we think.We are exporting a very small minority of our talent to an overseas investment who in return laugh at us cause our export is shit,low quallity and in the wrong ball-game.Thus makes it harder for nz bands who actually are more into the international sound and feel to crack it, but by then there will be no outside interest cause we stuff it up with our chessy boy bands....
so r u saying that fur patrol and ...
so r u saying that fur patrol and shihad r shit. ireally think u should stop dissing good nz music they need the support because we r such a small country. please dont be mean to zed. u can diss eye tv who r the only nz music band that kinda suck. what kinda music do u like ne way
ok soberstone go back to playing with ...
ok soberstone go back to playing with your britney spears or backstreet boys dolls ( your choice) just stop dissing ZED !!!!!!
if u have nothing else better to do with your time actually listen to their cd it ROCKS!!! maybe u should look at how many fans they have because then u would see that your opinion is not going to change ne one elses. what kinda music do u like ne way. im sure its not britney and i know its not eye tv cos they r just strange!!!!!
byebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebyebye!
diss where dissing is due.... I think ...
diss where dissing is due.... I think the hype around some bands (I won't metion the one I'm thinking of) is out of proportion, and dissing is good if its deserved.... don't get too precious k8 they're a super produced boy band, but if your into that.... cool.
ok ok i give up. i really couldnt care ...
ok ok i give up.
i really couldnt care less what u think of zed i just dont want u saying that they suck because they do have talent and theyre not a produced pop band coz theyve been friends half their lives and they didnt even have ray as their manager until they had been a band for over 3 years
i suppose andy was a little bit produced but not really anymore
ok soberstone if yr the industry ...
ok soberstone if yr the industry "expert" what nz band would you say could make it internationally? not that im into zed-in many respects i agree with you about the manufactured boy band stuff-but at least they're out there giving it a go!
stop dissing zed! They RULE! If you ...
stop dissing zed! They RULE! If you bothered to find out soberstone you would find the US LOVED them!
I would have to agree with Soberstone ...
I would have to agree with Soberstone (the Viper Room comment, genius). Zed are crap.
I can't believe they're supporting Coldplay! But, at least they'll make Coldplay look like music wizards.
Zed are getting airplay and grants, when more deserving bands (waltz along to the Dux in Chch on any given day), are missing out. It's unfair. It's almost embarrassing for NZ music.
By the way. Moonlight, K8, and Larz ...
By the way. Moonlight, K8, and Larz are 12-year-old girls right?
thats zeds target audience isn't ...
thats zeds target audience isn't it?...... female 12-17 ish
actaully there target audience is ...
actaully there target audience is anywhere from 10-22. ive met lots of 22 year olds who luv zed. i think this debate is quite funny sure i like zed but i dont think that ppl will ever stop arguing about bands they like and dont like the fact that eye tv suck
<font color="seagreen">Well, I'm 20, ...
Well, I'm 20, and I've always liked Zed. I liked them before I even saw them, I just liked their music I heard on the radio. So it's not as some people say, that people only like Zed for their looks.
I understand that Zed is not to everyone's liking. I even accept that people will say that Zed sux or whatever. What I don't get is people who say they have no talent. Obviously they do if they've managed to make it overseas, and especially the US. Everyone has their own tastes, why don't we all agree to disagree - like someone said before.
Cheer up. It's fun to have an ...
Cheer up. It's fun to have an arguement.
I cant believe everyone is still ...
I cant believe everyone is still bitching over this...
yes sum ppl wont like zed, & sum ...
yes sum ppl wont like zed, & sum will
WHY CANT U PPL GET OVER IT!!????????
I know lots of people who ARE NOT aged ...
I know lots of people who ARE NOT aged between 12 and 22 who like zed.
By the way I'm 14 not 12
hi yall im here now...
hi yall im here now
duz ne one like incubus?? i kno this is ...
duz ne one like incubus?? i kno this is sposed 2 b bout zed and i luv them 2 but duz ne love incubus?
The other day i met 3 of the members ...
The other day i met 3 of the members from zed and i came to realise what a bunch of self centered pricks they are. All of them were getting their hair cut at this upmarket hairdresser. When more people had realised that they were there the musicians' smiles deepened to large smirks. So this is to anyone out there (desperate chics and fag boys) who love Zed: Fuck You.
well shaz to put it nicely i think u ...
well shaz to put it nicely i think u should shut the fuck up, i bloody well hate zed but i would want a good job on my hair....maybe u just go for the cheapo job to be 'cool'. and also u have been seen lately to be saying that you like britney, well somehow i don't think she gets her mum to do HER hair, in fact she would be one of those people that spend the majority of their time and money on their image- again you should shut the fuck up until youve actually thought about what you're saying.
reowww!...What's all this fuss over ...
reowww!...What's all this fuss over some band?....but arguments sure make the chat rooms more exciting
yeah totally. this chat is boring if we ...
yeah totally. this chat is boring if we dont argue. hehe.
zed rock. i couldnt give a shit wether theyre up themselves or not
and im just not interested in what an idiot who likes britney spears has to say. britney and the backstreet boys should be shot. zed are actually really talented. you have to admit that nathan has a good sining voice and andy is a really good guitarist
YOU IDIOTS! to the music industry ...
YOU IDIOTS! to the music industry guy.....ummmm.........your saying that you dislike overproduced bands......but then say nz bands are getting no where due to the fact they're individual and dont feel the need to clone america's massproduced shit.......so what are you saying? we want a few more limp bizkits? I also agree that Zed are a bit too overproduced..but Coldplay arn't too great themselves.........and are seemingly always ripping off the great radiohead as do muse as othersuch bands.....although i guess you could give them some credibility..... dont panic is an alrite song......none the less......none of you know what your talking bout :-) Bye bubs!
i liked that last one until they said ...
i liked that last one until they said none of us know anything..... i mean you couldnt make up your mind about coldplay could ya mate? you had to finish your sentence with 'none of you know anything' = 'oh crap i ran out of shit to say' hahah well sorry unless youre god i dont think you know any more than us
Amen, brother. People - see my comment ...
Amen, brother. People - see my comment on the Zed comments board. Just my two bob on Zed.
Jimi, i have to say you are right on my ...
Jimi, i have to say you are right on my post......but you also read me wrong, and reading back on what i had written in my frantic ways it isnt hard to do. i wasnt serious....i obviously dont think that you're all without knowledge - i have actually agreed with every post ive read of yours yet. so yeah....on coldplay, i think they are pretty much corprotey radiohead ripoffs - but diss where dissing is due and give credit were cridit is due, i saw one of their film clips and it was actually half-decent, and although i think they have some credibility, they are still a long long long long long long (etc) way away from having music i would personally listen too.
yeah lol thanks i really dont like ...
yeah lol thanks i really dont like coldplay either heehee
dont diss coldplay. theyre way more ...
dont diss coldplay. theyre way more famous than all of u (i think) and they have actually made even though most people prefer pop music. they have obviously worked hard to get where they are just like zed. i met ben and andy in town the other day and they are the nicest guys ever so stop dissing them. if a band is famous they deserve respect because even if they play really crappy pop music it doesnt mean that they didnt struggle to get to the top. lets just respect all bands for being where they are and working damned hard for it.
Coldplay are one of the greatest bands ...
Coldplay are one of the greatest bands in the world today, and all Radiohead comparisons are meaningless. It's like, they both come from Britain and use guitars - Coldplay must be a Radiohead rip-off! No people. Coldplay actually have their own style of acoustic/electric guitar pop/rock without the pretense or ego-tripping that goes hand in hand with some of Radiohead's more recent efforts. You wouldn't start comparing Matchbox 20 with Pavement because they both come from America would you? No! And you wouldn't start comparing Ani DiFranco with Britney Spears because they're both female? No! So, let's give Coldplay a chance. By the way, I'm going to their show on 12 August - and Zed are shite.
hmmmm very confusing.......heres how i ...
hmmmm very confusing.......heres how i see it. colplay have a style very similar to travis, comparisons and 'ripping off' allegations arent made on whether they are arrogant or not its totally the style of the music. and k8 i dont really think that them being more famous than me makes them deserve undying love. k8 you seem caught up in the trap of 'oh theyre nice guys be nice about their music' well you can't say that all those people have worked hard because you simply don't know...... so i'm not gonna be nice about someones music just because one of their fans says they are hard working. maybe if you or i knew them it would be different? soldierboy i have to admit that you made some pretty good points based on their music, i pretty much agree with you but i still definitely wouldnt buy their cd...... (and i fucken hate the 'yellow' video clip):p
cya ppl
first of i would like to say that ...
first of i would like to say that soldierboy (i think thats the right name) u r an ass. i luv zed and im trying to be nice about it and not diss any other bands. and i know that zed and coldplay worked hard to get where they are along with radiohead and travis who are also really good bands. i didnt say they needed undying love i said that they deserved respect. i respect that eye tv work hard even though listening to their music makes me nauscious so u could at least say that they have some talent. if they didnt have talent they wouldnt be where they are today.
ok k8 im repeating from someone who ...
ok k8 im repeating from someone who went psycho at me for saying that all bands deserved respect. you don't know that all bands worked really hard. an example: tina arena was 'found' singing to herself in a train station. she had never had any singing lessons or anything. now she sells records doesnt she? regardless of whether you like her music or not, think of how many bands all over the world must have been signed to labels etc without being extremely hard workers! plus, i dont think that coldplay being more famous than me makes them deserve my RESPECT. k8 HOW do you know travis and zed blah blah have worked hard to be where they are? you argue that all bands must have talent to get where they are. (heres where i start copying the person that slagged me off) talent is a subjective opinion eg all it would take would be the president of a record company to think a band was good and then theyd be set....even if no-one else thought they were good. eye tv lol....who knows HOW they got to the point where they are today, making us nauseous! but the fact is k8 you must dislike some bands and think they have no talent, and wonder 'who the hell would buy this music?', and some people are going to think that about zed for instance and arent going to change their view just because they might have worked hard. this would mean a different world: 'ah yes well the new zealander came dead last in the 200m olympic swimming final, but god he worked hard to get to the olympics, lets give him a gold medal.' then everyone has to get a gold medal and the whole meaning of getting one goes out the window! get my drift?
Right. K8, you might as well say that a ...
Right. K8, you might as well say that a truly crap band like Limp Bizkit have "talent" because they "play their own instruments and write their own music". The question is HOW WELL they are able to play their instruments and of what quality is their songwriting? Any old monkey can pick up a guitar and write a song. As one person remarked beforehand, the only reason why Zed had a look-in in the first place was not because they were exceptionally brilliant, but because the record company honchos knew that their particular brand of sugary Americanised guitar music would appeal to the lowest common denominator here in NZ. It is debatable whether or not Zed would've even landed a deal had they come from California. Oh, and please don't mention Coldplay and Travis in the same context as Zed.
just because tina arena wasnt working ...
just because tina arena wasnt working hard when she was discovered it doesnt mean that she isnt working hard now and she must have had a bloody good talent if she was discovered singing to herself. if i was a nz band i would be extremely happy to have a lot of record execs supporting me all the way. ok so i hate all thoses crappy pop american bands like n'sync but they can sing probably better than u. so dont tell me that bands dont work hard.
jeez k8 look. 1) saying they can sing ...
jeez k8 look. 1) saying they can sing (probably) better than me means nothing. first off you dont know that and it doesnt affect anything. 2) HOW DO YOU KNOW that all bands work hard?? you don't so you can't just assume they do. 3) my point about tina arena was also meant to show that you don't necessarily have to have talent to be signed. again i say to you, there MUST be bands/singers that you think have no talent that are signed to labels. 4) lastly, about 'talent' and 'hard work'. its purely an opinion! for instance soldierboy hates limp bizkit and loves coldplay, whereas im the opposite, but at least we both know that you cant make judgements about personality when you don't know the band. soldierboy isnt going to be stupid enough to criticise limp bizkit for being lazy just cos he doesnt like them (or i hope hes not going to ;) ) because you can like or dislike music, but you cant do it just because your perception of the band is 'hard working' or not. thankyou for reading please come again
Ok. I would like to say that i am not a ...
Ok. I would like to say that i am not a dim enough person to liken coldplay to radiohead! ....and the music radiohead have "recently" been making can not even be compared to coldplay's work. If you have ever even listened to Amnesiac or Kid a you would realise that radiohead sound nothing like coldplay. Im thinking more along the lines of albums like the bends, pablo honey and even Ok COmputer. I like a lot of english music and im not that sheltered to compare them because they're the only english bands ive ever heard of. Personally i dont like travis either (the love you bring wont mean a thing unless you sing - geee.......someone has "strong points" in songwriting...) or muse who have ripped entire riffs from radiohead. Sorry but they are ripping off radiohead, like it of not. One day they might be something more cridble, but lets wait till that day and THEN praise them please.
Oh and K8, what you say about all bands deserving a chance for being bands that got somewhere is rubbish. You obviously havent heard the words "Corporate Pricks" if you havent come to the realisation that most pop bands are MADE......not formed nowadays.....
It doesnt matter if you have talent anymore (have you heard kylie minogue....or geri halliwell) .............unless accedemically smart your future is practically paved out...........im an artist.......i may be talented but do you think there is such a big market for art now?.....no didnt think so...............ill be eating cat food by the time im twenty five.
***********Sorry people i made a ...
***********Sorry people i made a mistake in the first line of my above post so i did it again :-) lol**************************************
Ok. I would like to say that i am not a dim enough person to liken coldplay to radiohead on the basis that they are both english and guitar bands! ....and the music radiohead have "recently" been making can not even be compared to coldplay's work. If you have ever even listened to Amnesiac or Kid a you would realise that radiohead sound nothing like coldplay. Im thinking more along the lines of albums like the bends, pablo honey and even Ok COmputer. I like a lot of english music and im not that sheltered to compare them because they're the only english bands ive ever heard of. Personally i dont like travis either (the love you bring wont mean a thing unless you sing - geee.......someone has "strong points" in songwriting...) or muse who have ripped entire riffs from radiohead. Sorry but they are ripping off radiohead, like it of not. One day they might be something more cridble, but lets wait till that day and THEN praise them please.
Oh and K8, what you say about all bands deserving a chance for being bands that got somewhere is rubbish. You obviously havent heard the words "Corporate Pricks" if you havent come to the realisation that most pop bands are MADE......not formed nowadays.....
It doesnt matter if you have talent anymore (have you heard kylie minogue....or geri halliwell) .............unless accedemically smart your future is practically paved out...........im an artist.......i may be talented but do you think there is such a big market for art now?.....no didnt think so...............ill be eating cat food by the time im twenty five.
Hey now, I agree that "The Bends" and ...
Hey now, I agree that "The Bends" and "Pablo Honey"-era Radiohead was guitar pop, and so are Coldplay and Travis - but that does not mean that either band are ripping off Radiohead!! It is as if Radiohead has now become the standard that all other British guiar-pop bands are measured against, and all future bands of this nature will now be accused of "sounding" exactly like Radiohead. It's driving me up the wall.
well from what ive heard of 'kid a' ...
well from what ive heard of 'kid a' (which isnt the whole album) i have to say i cant imagine anyone being able to replicate the sound......a truly fucked up piece of work, and nothing like the 'duh duh duh duh' guitars of coldplay, and can you imagine thom yorke (of radiohead) writing 'look at the stars, see how they shine for you, and all the things you do' blah blah. plus i think travis have some pretty dodgy lyrics and already i reckon their creativity is starting to run out. i mean has anyone noticed how alike the chorus's "if we turn turn turn turn turn" and "if we sing sing sing etc" are???? tell me if im wrong, cya.
i only compare coldplay to radiohead ...
i only compare coldplay to radiohead because the music they produce is really alot like that of radioheads pablo honey the bends days...i mean coldplay are ok....but in my opinion they are ripping off radiohead. its fairly obvious that if someone comes out trying to produce simular music as another band, they will be labelled rip offs. because simply the are RIPPING OFF an idea...
Jimi thank~you for the solid agreement...at least someone here understands dammit...thanks -Peaches.
hmm well thats alright but i dont think ...
hmm well thats alright but i dont think i said i agreed with you did i? heehee in fact didnt i say opposite of what youre saying.... lol but maybe i just didnt understand ;). by the way i do agree with you pretty much tho... cya
hey jimi - in a way you did agree, even ...
hey jimi - in a way you did agree, even thought you were disagreeing.....i was mainly saying not to compare radiohead's recent stuff with coldplays parachutes stuff and you sort of agreed with that (another guy said that radiohead's recent stuff and coldplays yellow faze are alike i was in disagreement)...im sort of thinking that coldplay are more ripping off radiohead's early stuff.................but they dont have the same genius radiohead do.......
- i couldnt imagine thom singing yellow ever though......made me laugh a bit thinking of it lol anyway seeya bubs :-)
Could you picture Thom Yorke singing ...
Could you picture Thom Yorke singing "Yellow"? Take a chill pill Peaches.
ok i get where youre coming from but im ...
ok i get where youre coming from but im beginning to really get confused.....so im just not gonna say anything at all hehehe! take a chill pill..... how more eighties could u be soldierboy? next time try and call yourself BODACIOUS HAHAHA sorry that word is just too funny
That was, like, a most bogus comment ...
That was, like, a most bogus comment there jimi-dude. Like, totally.
ahhhhh... if only bands like Pluto and ...
ahhhhh... if only bands like Pluto and Goodshirt got put foward the way Zed have , both clever , creative and with a hell of a lot more charisma than those little rent boys . New Zealand has always had it's best success with original and innovative sounds , stuff that you can't get anywhere else , pity .....
Jesus, Peacheshead! What the fuck? ...
Jesus, Peacheshead! What the fuck?
Yeah buddy, everyone's ripping off Radiohead! Yeah, they're the most original band in the world. Oh god! Creep stands alone as the most original song ever written. OH WAIT! I'M BEING SARCASTIC!!
What do you think, Radiohead invented their sound?!? Whatever mate. If you think Coldplay and Travis are ripping off Radiohead, then Radiohead are ripping off Ocean Colour Scene, or they're ripping off the Charlatans, or maybe even Blur!! They've all been round longer! But I wouldn't say that, would I, because it's shite, just like the shite you're trying to spin about Coldplay and Travis.
You cannot compare "Parachutes" to "Pablo Honey". It's extremely different. All bands are influenced by other bands, and you can often hear it, but it'd be a stretch to say Coldplay are influenced by Radiohead. If they're influenced by someone it's more likely to be Bob Dylan.
And then you go on hassle Travis's songwriting skills. Have you actually listened to their albums? He was writing brilliantly with "The Man Who", but after seeing the lyrics to "The Invisible Band", I would have to say that Fran Healy is writing some of the best stuff to come out today. What's Thom Yorke writing? Oh that's right....nothing. He's just electronically looping together mindless babble. Genius.
dontpanic, I've found a new best ...
dontpanic, I've found a new best friend. Couldn't have said it better myself.
OK back to topic - so lets say that Zed ...
OK back to topic - so lets say that Zed do well in their American push... what kind of impact do you think it might have on NZ bands and NZ music?