no way stefan. hehe. Art rock is lame as. All rock is some crazy form of art.

No stefan because people who usually play art rock usually for get to rock like radiohead. haha
i think it is a very pretentious term.

But take bailterspace i dont think they make pretentious music but they get called Art rock when really it is more spacerock or noise rock.

ok who would you call art rock stefan?

When I was at the Tool gig, I had the strongest of impressions that Tool is the Pink Floyd of today.

yeah i would say that.
but wanky rock goes to tool

you know blink i really want to

but it will just be a 'yes they are..... no they aren't' argument, which i have no time for

stefan....fair call.

i don't hate tool that much. i just enjoy stirring.

quarters?

wow, I'm sorry I didn't realise you are that bad off.
25 cents is a Merry Christmas huh?
I think it is admirable that Blink blows goats so that you can enjoy the festive season.

this really is turning into a bar topic.... damn aye.....

it had so much promise - who the fuck is neil? and do you ever write anything sane judy?

so anyway, i was listening to eulogy and stinkfist just before. they are the best best best songs i have ever heard, everything else is crap, especially anything by that shit band 'ejector'.

that's how you stir blink ;). people like judy won't be able to resist blasting my ass now....

// who the fuck is neil?

I believe it is a Young Ones quote.

that's some good stirring jimi. as i had sai on a previous forum. eulogy is one of my fav all time tracks. I used to close up at sounds every day playing that track. But i just felt that they haven't moved on from there, kinda like how RATM kick ass but all there albums sound like they could from the same session. Anyway...i get bored talking about tool...... just as bored as listening to them :)

oh and for the record ive never heard ejector, so im just bullshitting. and i dont think that tool are the best band ever.

i know you probably realise that, but it's too risky to let it stand. i would be an absolute fuckwit.
heh, cant write anything without apologising - call me mr. no balls....

Tool musicially is progressive rock/experimental/alternative. Conceptially they are artisitic so maybe you can call them art rock.

// progressive rock/experimental/alternative

you could say the same about Pink Floyd. One label is usually not enough to define a band.

take it easy benny, we all friends here. Stefan is using the term wank rock affectionately

Tool woule be "wank rock" not art rock :)

Genre definitions are useful in referring to style of music, which is of increasing importance as a musical element. Attempting to be as accurate as possible by creating well chosen genre subsets can be useful in understanding and describing music. However, I think the problem is when mass fashion and commercial interest interferes to degrade styles and when people expect music to conform to their preferred combination of stylistic elements without due appreciation of other important aspects of the music. Fashion, culture and commercial victims should not be the driving force of music growth, as popularity is.

or post music rock

SHUT UP DICK!!!

/more seriously "alt-country" is my pet-peeve

Do you dislike the label or the music it tries to cover? As a description, I think its quite a useful one, because you certainly can't call what a lot of the alt.country people doing country, there's a definite step away from the conventions of that genre while still nodding towards it but you wouldn't necessarily want to go the whole hog and call them alterntaive.

Of course, as soon as label for a genre gains any kind of cred at all, a whole bunch of bands jump in on the bandwagon and that label loses any meaning - like punk.

get there faster without the stupid period at the end of the link. oops

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