heard the new single on "the rock" this morning. what can i tell you, it's fucking oarsome. i was almost crying it was that good. bliss for the ears. now i can't wait for the new album. rock on boys and take america apart.
sucked? Were we at the same show? It looked to me like 1500 people were having the time of their life. Classics such as Home Again had the whole theatre shaking, I had people screaming along to Mind Minds Sedate in my ear. The mosh pit extended right back to the sound desk at times with a constant stream of crowd surfers providing excellent cutaways. Lighters were even sparked up in the acoustic encore 'Walls'. A terrific homecoming with a new name and new songs that sound even more promising than GE.
teina, do you realise that in your description of the show
you said absolutely nothing about the music or the band?
You could be describing a Creed(eg) show for all I know.
Dunno if I'd go so far as to say they sucked, but they were about as innovative as yesterday's teabag. Their new songs are getting formulaic - which I guess is what you need to do if you want to appeal to the masses - and they were basically your average rock band with very little to say to me. I didn't even stay to the end, although it must have been close.
What say hollis was an engineer of sorts.
Imagine that he wasn't very good.
Pretend that some of the high profile bands he slags off have worked with him once, and will never work with him again. Imagine if record companies asked bands not to use him, cause he was below par.
It would probably make hollis feel better to put those bands down, rather than let people realize that his lo-fi engineering was a result of a lack of talent.
Now imagine that hollis had engineered some of those 'cool' bands, you know, they are cool cause they don't get radio play, and can't get funding, and don't show up his lack of ability, that kind of cool.
He would probably talk about how cool they are, probably on the forums.
hey hollis i'd be interested in your comment and opinion on the pro's and con's of analogue versus digital, I gather via your comments on this site that you could be the person to ask?
analogue: uses 1" or 2" tape is that correct? so 2" is better? and if you record analogue and master to a cd, do you lose somewhat the characteristics of the analogue?
well i love the song, im just watchin the video repeatedly, its just got that ommmphh that my minds sadate & wait & see have.
& i just can't stay away from it!!!!
I agree, Jonny.. and for someone to say they sound like Creed on "Comfort Me" isn't a correct assesment. Creed just doesn't have the musicianship; they're merely a Pearl Clam clone. There is more musical talent in the two hands of Tom Larkin than all of Crud, um.. Creed combined.
wow. all the negativity. i thought it was a great set (although i had to go part way through - i wish i could traded with the people who left through choice) i definatly thought that they would have had a much more positive reaction from people who were there. does the fact they used protools in recording make a difference live? does the fact that they had a major event in their life as a band, a whole new experience, mean they cant change their outlook or style a little without old fans saying the 'new' stuff is crap and blaming the band/jons writing/the producer ??
is it really as bad as everyone is collectivly saying, or is it just not quite to the tatse of people who like Shihad not Pacifier?
i loved it, being right in there, being close enough to almost touch the band and feeling the crowd love it too (or so i thought) and seeing the way the band were so fucking stoked everyone was goin for it??
cant we wait till the albums released to give them a review? where are all the people i saw enjoying it, is it only the people who didnt posting, or i really thought most people liked the new stuff.
oh well - im relativly new to nz music - dont mind me.
well you all sound like you all know each other and its been very interesting reading all your comments. ive not seen or heard any nu stuff yet so i cant comment on that. i will say however, that im gonna support it cause its nz music and we need to get behind it cause its bands like pacifier that bring attention to our dark corner of the earth, even though i dont live there anymore. well thats what i think anyway....
This week on Squeeze - Pacifier. We talk to the guys about life in Australia, life in L.A., the name change, why the band nearly broke up, and lots of other bits. As well as fresh interviews with the band, there's footage from past interviews and the videos for first single 'I Only Said' and new single 'Comfort Me' - plus free stuff...
This is a show you don't want to miss!
Squeeze - Sunday at 3pm, and again Thursday at 11:35pm
Why isn't Hamish Laing, original base, mentioned in any of the articles or histories of Shi-Hard? Hamish was the only reason a few of us ol' Wellingtownians went to the Shihad gigs.
Oh, sure John boy's entertainment, but I suppose after going to school with the geek, you kinda have a bit of trouble really being a "fan":)
Guess that with all the kids now being able to afford CD's that it is only natural for John Boy and his talent to sell well... It's good music, and Jon ain't all bad, of course he bloody isn't... He was never pretencious (how the heck do you spell that anyway) enough to bother trying to sit on the back seat, and has always been focused on the band. Amazingly focused actually.
I've had just a little to do with the recording industry and live productions and know a good band when I see 'em (anyone found the original footage of Fur Patrol circa Feb 99, Wanaka NZ?!!! wish I could find it, it was in digital stereo after all....) .... What the phuck am I on about? Oh yeah. Shihard.
Right, HAMISH LAING. He may not deserve a gold statue, but his place in the first four years of the "Hard" should not be forgotten!
Hmmm......Hamish Laing wasn't the original bass player....Shihad had a number of bass players before Hamish left TAB to join Shihad which he left due to their change of direction. One of the early bass players left Shihad for religious reasons ....I think he joined Certain Sounds....Sure the first Shihad official recording features Hamish and he played the Metallica support. ......They even flew in a guy from ChristCHurch to play bass with them in the early days. If you weed through the messages in my yahoo group you will uncover further Shihad history.
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Cant wait 2 c PACIFIER perform at da ...
Cant wait 2 c PACIFIER perform at da true colours concert next week i still have 2 get used 2 their new name!!
New Pacifier site was launched a few ...
New Pacifier site was launched a few minutes ago.... Look out for daily additions this week.
[ http://www.pacifierband.com ]
hey the new pacifier site looks like ...
hey the new pacifier site looks like the old hanson one!
.... not that i would know or anything....
Don't deny yourself Prozaco...
Don't deny yourself Prozaco
the new single sounds truly awesome, ...
the new single sounds truly awesome, heavy and traditionally SHIHAD!!!!
woooo hooooo!!! love the site! love the ...
woooo hooooo!!! love the site! love the new song! love it allll!!!!
Have a blast on the coming tour guys!!! :) sweeeeeeeeet new single sooooon :)
rock on ppl!
kat
grrr want more now, thank you....
grrr want more now, thank you.
me 2, im gettin malnourished, i need ...
me 2, im gettin malnourished, i need sum new material!!! to feed my hunger!!!! arggghhhh!!!!!!! that 30 sec video has wheted my appetite!!
I just heard Jon will be on The Rock's ...
I just heard Jon will be on The Rock's breakfast show tommorow, and they will be playing the full length Comfort Me single
heard the new single on "the rock" this ...
heard the new single on "the rock" this morning. what can i tell you, it's fucking oarsome. i was almost crying it was that good. bliss for the ears. now i can't wait for the new album. rock on boys and take america apart.
Yeah I heard it too, it was quite ...
Yeah I heard it too, it was quite good!!
They sounded a different to what use to, but it still rocked!!
it's really different, i need to hear ...
it's really different, i need to hear it again, and this time not on my alarm clock!! Fuck
Comfort ...
Comfort Me:
http://www.enternet.co.nz/users/thedopeshow/Pacifier/
I'll try to keep it up as long as possible. Check out www.pacifierband.com for more details. Enjoy!
Thank ...
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
Pacifier sucked last night and ...
Pacifier sucked last night
and 'Comfort Me' is possibly one of the worst songs I've ever heard.
sorry mana
yeah i was quite disappointed too...
yeah i was quite disappointed too
strangely enough you'll get no ...
strangely enough you'll get no argument from me :(
i have nothing to say
sucked? Were we at the same show? It ...
sucked? Were we at the same show? It looked to me like 1500 people were having the time of their life. Classics such as Home Again had the whole theatre shaking, I had people screaming along to Mind Minds Sedate in my ear. The mosh pit extended right back to the sound desk at times with a constant stream of crowd surfers providing excellent cutaways. Lighters were even sparked up in the acoustic encore 'Walls'. A terrific homecoming with a new name and new songs that sound even more promising than GE.
what sucked about them? sucked is a ...
what sucked about them?
sucked is a pretty harsh word.
I agree hollis. Comfort me is ...
I agree hollis. Comfort me is horrible. i was really dissapointed. It was more creed or puddle of mudd than SHIHAD.
teina, do you realise that in your ...
teina, do you realise that in your description of the show
you said absolutely nothing about the music or the band?
You could be describing a Creed(eg) show for all I know.
i did like "walls"... not overly ...
i did like "walls"... not overly impressed with "comfort me" though. thought it was pretty average.
Dunno if I'd go so far as to say they ...
Dunno if I'd go so far as to say they sucked, but they were about as innovative as yesterday's teabag. Their new songs are getting formulaic - which I guess is what you need to do if you want to appeal to the masses - and they were basically your average rock band with very little to say to me. I didn't even stay to the end, although it must have been close.
i think their sound guy needed a ...
i think their sound guy needed a hiding.
shit i hate to think what people with trained ears thought.
i didn't think i'd ever be writing bad shit about my favorite band.
ohhhhhhhhh some excitement at last........
ohhhhhhhhh some excitement at last.....
take it to the bar.... ...
take it to the bar....
What say hollis was an engineer of ...
What say hollis was an engineer of sorts.
Imagine that he wasn't very good.
Pretend that some of the high profile bands he slags off have worked with him once, and will never work with him again. Imagine if record companies asked bands not to use him, cause he was below par.
It would probably make hollis feel better to put those bands down, rather than let people realize that his lo-fi engineering was a result of a lack of talent.
Now imagine that hollis had engineered some of those 'cool' bands, you know, they are cool cause they don't get radio play, and can't get funding, and don't show up his lack of ability, that kind of cool.
He would probably talk about how cool they are, probably on the forums.
Imagine that.
looking forward to seeing holiis's ...
looking forward to seeing holiis's reply.....
Jon's voice sounds a bit different, ...
Jon's voice sounds a bit different, thats why "Pro Tools" are evil in the wrong hands
you are not wrong however, I think ...
you are not wrong
however, I think that part of the general electric was also done on protools
which would also explain the quality of that record.
All of the TGE album was done using ...
All of the TGE album was done using ProTools.
I was under the impression that at ...
I was under the impression that at least the drums and bass were tracked to 2"
Dunno, m8.. maybe so.. just going by ...
Dunno, m8.. maybe so.. just going by what I read..
hey hollis i'd be interested in your ...
hey hollis i'd be interested in your comment and opinion on the pro's and con's of analogue versus digital, I gather via your comments on this site that you could be the person to ask?
analogue: uses 1" or 2" tape is that correct? so 2" is better? and if you record analogue and master to a cd, do you lose somewhat the characteristics of the analogue?
Ta
maybe this is another thread?
to the Bar ...
to the Bar
Apparently the album, called Pacifier, ...
Apparently the album, called Pacifier, will be released in mid - August.
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well i love the song, im just watchin ...
well i love the song, im just watchin the video repeatedly, its just got that ommmphh that my minds sadate & wait & see have.
& i just can't stay away from it!!!!
Go Fire!!!!
I agree, Jonny.. and for someone to say ...
I agree, Jonny.. and for someone to say they sound like Creed on "Comfort Me" isn't a correct assesment. Creed just doesn't have the musicianship; they're merely a Pearl Clam clone. There is more musical talent in the two hands of Tom Larkin than all of Crud, um.. Creed combined.
funny you should say that because ...
funny you should say that because Saturday night
was the first time I'd noticed how boring Toms drumming is
lock your doors hollis... the larkin ...
lock your doors hollis...
the larkin fan club is probably hunting you down right this minute!
;)
yes, that was a particulaly stupid ...
yes, that was a particulaly stupid comment from me.
I just really didn't dig the gig.
but full thumbs up for our best band ever.
wow. all the negativity. i thought it ...
wow. all the negativity. i thought it was a great set (although i had to go part way through - i wish i could traded with the people who left through choice) i definatly thought that they would have had a much more positive reaction from people who were there. does the fact they used protools in recording make a difference live? does the fact that they had a major event in their life as a band, a whole new experience, mean they cant change their outlook or style a little without old fans saying the 'new' stuff is crap and blaming the band/jons writing/the producer ??
is it really as bad as everyone is collectivly saying, or is it just not quite to the tatse of people who like Shihad not Pacifier?
i loved it, being right in there, being close enough to almost touch the band and feeling the crowd love it too (or so i thought) and seeing the way the band were so fucking stoked everyone was goin for it??
cant we wait till the albums released to give them a review? where are all the people i saw enjoying it, is it only the people who didnt posting, or i really thought most people liked the new stuff.
oh well - im relativly new to nz music - dont mind me.
i.e. "to all those dissing the concert ...
i.e. "to all those dissing the concert - not those applauding the single"
well you all sound like you all know ...
well you all sound like you all know each other and its been very interesting reading all your comments. ive not seen or heard any nu stuff yet so i cant comment on that. i will say however, that im gonna support it cause its nz music and we need to get behind it cause its bands like pacifier that bring attention to our dark corner of the earth, even though i dont live there anymore. well thats what i think anyway....
This is the one you've been waiting ...
This is the one you've been waiting for...
This week on Squeeze - Pacifier. We talk to the guys about life in Australia, life in L.A., the name change, why the band nearly broke up, and lots of other bits. As well as fresh interviews with the band, there's footage from past interviews and the videos for first single 'I Only Said' and new single 'Comfort Me' - plus free stuff...
This is a show you don't want to miss!
Squeeze - Sunday at 3pm, and again Thursday at 11:35pm
[ http://www.squeezetv.co.nz ]
Just to hype it some more. If you ...
Just to hype it some more. If you missed it on Sunday, it's on again tonight at 11.35.
SQUEEZE and everybody... Why isn't ...
SQUEEZE and everybody...
Why isn't Hamish Laing, original base, mentioned in any of the articles or histories of Shi-Hard? Hamish was the only reason a few of us ol' Wellingtownians went to the Shihad gigs.
Oh, sure John boy's entertainment, but I suppose after going to school with the geek, you kinda have a bit of trouble really being a "fan":)
Guess that with all the kids now being able to afford CD's that it is only natural for John Boy and his talent to sell well... It's good music, and Jon ain't all bad, of course he bloody isn't... He was never pretencious (how the heck do you spell that anyway) enough to bother trying to sit on the back seat, and has always been focused on the band. Amazingly focused actually.
I've had just a little to do with the recording industry and live productions and know a good band when I see 'em (anyone found the original footage of Fur Patrol circa Feb 99, Wanaka NZ?!!! wish I could find it, it was in digital stereo after all....) .... What the phuck am I on about? Oh yeah. Shihard.
Right, HAMISH LAING. He may not deserve a gold statue, but his place in the first four years of the "Hard" should not be forgotten!
Long live 'MISH.
[ http://www.milesholden.com ]
Hmmm......Hamish Laing wasn't the ...
Hmmm......Hamish Laing wasn't the original bass player....Shihad had a number of bass players before Hamish left TAB to join Shihad which he left due to their change of direction. One of the early bass players left Shihad for religious reasons ....I think he joined Certain Sounds....Sure the first Shihad official recording features Hamish and he played the Metallica support. ......They even flew in a guy from ChristCHurch to play bass with them in the early days. If you weed through the messages in my yahoo group you will uncover further Shihad history.
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devolve is an average release. his ...
devolve is an average release. his contribution is minimal. geoff duncan and rob daniels were the bassists before hamish.
[ http://www.static-ecstasy.com ]
Damn my typing and proofreading ...
Damn my typing and proofreading sux...above link is wrong
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