I Hate to be the one who will bring this up but nobody else has and it seems quite true.
Over the last couple of years we have seen all these"TV Popstars" programs, they are all rubbish, talentless, selected for their looks rather than talent, are forced to smile on stage and sing songs written by their producer cos they want to keep the stupid stupid schmuck who doesnt care ready to make a big tax write off while at the same time corrupting society especially young girls by brainwashing them with stoopid corporate crap.
guess where this trend started?? why in our very own New Zealand in 1999 with the likes of Truebliss, this manufactured corruption moved across the tasman with Bardot, then UK with those butt ugly freaks here'say then Americam and Ireland and Canada.
and you wonder why we call the USA "Corporate Pigs" when we triggered off this latest round of plastic only-made-for-profit corruptive rubbish known as "Manufactured music".


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Yeah NZ started this disease, yeah it ...
Yeah NZ started this disease, yeah it sucks, but they don't last very long anyway
if you are so worried about people ...
if you are so worried about people being judged by looks, and state the fact that it is corrupting our young girls, then making comments like 'butt ugly freaks here'say' is fairly hypocritical...
Rather clever really. Hope they made ...
Rather clever really. Hope they made good money on the rights.
zaphod what do u mean by ratehr ...
zaphod
what do u mean by ratehr clever?? my post?? or the fact that New Zealand we started this sick made-for-tv pop trend?
music should be about keeping the fans happy not greedy marketing and record co. executives making a buck or thousand off milking little kids into their corruptive evil empire.
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'Good money on the rights' HA...thats ...
'Good money on the rights' HA...thats fukking laughable, apparently we sold it to Australia for like a million dollars, who has sold it for multi - millions across the world. We lucked out bad. Then again who knew that this tripe was going to be a hit. Its hardly like these 'groups' of 'musicians' are successful anyway, they have their shit hit, then they get ridiculed. It seems that these 'popstars' are ripped off in a way. They 'perform' shit music & then have their faces & names tainted...the price of fame! Hey its happening everywhere, just dont be roped into the manufactured bullshit that brain washes screaming 13 year old girls minds...basically pop is the root of alll evil, thats right allll evil!
dude - the industry's been doing ...
dude - the industry's been doing exactly this ever since they realised there's a buck to be made off middle-class white-trash girlies and their weekly exorbitant allowances from mom and dad...
nz just brought it to our attention with the next logical step
i know about this evil marketing-based ...
i know about this evil marketing-based music started with New Kids On The Block (now known as Old Men on The Unemployment Benefit) Back in the 1980s but it all got outta hand, good jesus somebody should have shot lou pearlman before 1993 then maybe good old bands such as Soundgarden would still be tops today and this hideous trend avoided. anyhoo it was us - Aotearoa who developed the Illogical step of this current bollocks. this country is far too small to take a more in-depth look at corruption that corporate america shoves down our throats 24/7.
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you are a very angry person......
you are a very angry person...
no shit, just look at the list of bands ...
no shit, just look at the list of bands in his profile.
and btw, mark wahlberg from new kids is now a successful actor, two other new kids recently released some horrific pop songs and are doing well in america. as for the rest of them, youre probably dead on. theyre likely on the unemployment benefit.
Oh my god I'm so ashamed that I know ...
Oh my god I'm so ashamed that I know this.
But... DONNY Wahlberg was in New Kids... MARK Wahlberg was Marky Mark.
And *winces* Donny Wahlberg has gone onto a minor acting career, he was one of the kidnappers in Ransom and also one of the soldiers in that really good TV series last year, Band of Brothers.
Er... and my point was... NONE of ...
Er... and my point was...
NONE of the New Kids have really gone onto anything that great... only one of them's brother.
yeah i know i mixed the names up. i ...
yeah i know i mixed the names up. i corrected myself further down the thread tho!
//they are all rubbish, talentless, ...
//they are all rubbish, talentless, selected for their looks rather than talent, are forced to smile on stage and sing songs
but it wasnt chosen on good looks for the new zealand one, im not saying that they were ugly. i remember one time in the program one of the judges commented on joes looks and saying something like she may not be perfect but shes got talent.
i dont think NZ started a trend, i think other countries saw something they could manipulate and change its meaning and used it to make superficial plastic groups.
Hmmm, I don't know about that. I ...
Hmmm, I don't know about that. I suspect they picked Joe for the fact that she was "large" to make the TV show a little more interesting. There were a lot of other "slimmer" girls at the auditions who could sing just as well as she, but the producers probably felt that it would be too obvious or boring if it were five perfect, thin ladies going around and choosing clothes to fit their image and all that drama. Enter Joe - the odd-one-out who would naturally enconter problems when the time came to pick the threads (or even fit into them), learn the choreographed dance moves, etc. The ratings sky rocket.
Just my views.
wow that is very observant ...
wow that is very observant actually
why are you not in reality tv already soldierboy?
Well, I was pushing for a NZ Big ...
Well, I was pushing for a NZ Big Brother at one point in time, but nothing became of it, and I guess nothing ever will. Still, we got the Aussie one, right? Yeah, I know it's crap - European editions of Big Brother are a lot tastier.
it was originally supposed to be a ...
it was originally supposed to be a documentry, was it not?
do you know whats worse than teeny ...
do you know whats worse than teeny boppers?
old scabby bogans who hate change, mock 13 yr olds, wear ripped clothes, have mullets, dont wash, and smoke far too much pot
actually, i wouldn't say WORSE. i ...
actually, i wouldn't say WORSE.
i think theyre both pretty evil.
this post is your classic example of ...
this post is your classic example of what happens to a heavy pot smoker when they run out of weed.
*off to check out hugh wrights*
in no way did NZ start this trend. The ...
in no way did NZ start this trend. The Monkees anyone?
I always thought the Popstars thing had ...
I always thought the Popstars thing had a light hearted edge to it. But really it is just another Big Brother.
u mean the monkees as in davy ...
u mean the monkees as in davy jones??
hmmm wasnt their also the partridge family?? david cassidy that acid dropping vietnam draft dogin hippie?? anyhoo at least those guys had instruments unlike the crap we see today and of course these folk where selected for talent rather than image.
p.s morbid smurf has changed its look a little plus check out the new projects.
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the difference between the Monkeys, The ...
the difference between the Monkeys, The Partridge Family and the modern equivalent S club 7 is these comedy/ drama shows are the end product of a selection process,
New Zealand popstars was intended as a documentary to show the selection of these "stars", more to highlight how manufactured band are created,
I was under the impression that it was meant as a one off, but was later franchised..........it is interesting to note that of these manufactured band some of the European ones are doing extremely well and are up to having 3rd and 4th albums released..........I am by the way not saying that is a good thing it's just interesting.
Yeah but The Monkeys were a bit ...
Yeah but The Monkeys were a bit different to Popstars.
Monkeys were actors, Popstars are clearly not!!
You know what Jimi Hendrix opened up for a The Monkeys, that would be cool to see!!
I think Jimi said that was one of his least favourite gig
yeah i think he did a few, but he got ...
yeah i think he did a few, but he got really pissed off at the crowd response, so he flipped them off and left.
as in, he did a few opening slots for ...
as in, he did a few opening slots for the monkees, and he flipped off the crowd. not the monkees.
yeah.
yes Hendrix did open for the ...
yes Hendrix did open for the monkeys...the monkeys where a combination of actors and players, Mike Nesbit..(spelling is bound to be wrong) was trying always to take the band towards a more "real " place..
By the way the stupid teeny boppers who had bought in to the Monkeys hysteria BOOED HENDRIX OFF THE STAGE
er it is the monkees you know like the ...
er it is the monkees you know like the beatles.
Didn't the Pete guy become a hippy?
yep pete turned in to a hippy........he ...
yep pete turned in to a hippy........he was the funny blonde one, and was also the other music maker.........the story goes that is was a beatle that first showed him how to expand his mind
"By the way the stupid teeny boppers ...
"By the way the stupid teeny boppers who had bought in to the Monkeys hysteria BOOED HENDRIX OFF THE STAGE"
Guess they couldn't hear talent when they see it!!
Mr Pennywise. no im not a bogan yet ...
Mr Pennywise.
no im not a bogan yet alone id ont have a mullet, i just hate preps, and society yes call me angry but i am only angry at one thing - the world its just pure disgust to see people pretending to be happy in a world full of war, unemployment and poverty. i aint gothic either but places like cemetaries and forests are a perfect place for me and my Gs to ecape the hustle and bustle of preppies dominating urban streets.
and what valley are you talking about Mr Pennywise??
preppies? Do we have preppies? I ...
preppies? Do we have preppies? I thought you only got those in American college movies.
prep students ... yes an american ...
prep students ... yes an american thing for sure
cheer up lucifer ... there's lots of things to be happy about
True story: Stephen Stills from Crosby, ...
True story: Stephen Stills from Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young nearly got Pete's part in the Monkees... and was devastated when he missed out.
Went on to bigger and better things without a TV show to help him get there.
Charlie Manson also ausitioned fo rthe ...
Charlie Manson also ausitioned fo rthe Monkees but he got rejected for "not being to crazy enought"
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hey lucipher/morbid - what's wrong ...
hey lucipher/morbid - what's wrong with Hallensteins?
i believe you mean "hannahs"?...
i believe you mean "hannahs"?
he doesn't like either. ...
he doesn't like either.
oh. i guess he gets his bogan jeans ...
oh.
i guess he gets his bogan jeans from somewhere else then :->
love the html tutorial....
love the html tutorial.
umm whats wrong with hellensteins lets ...
umm whats wrong with hellensteins lets see its tooooo trendy, the clothes are fucken expensive and most are made by sweatshop labourers and hannahs - again sweatshop, tooooo trendy and Slutty
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I have a couple of questions for ...
I have a couple of questions for Lucifer
1. What is wrong with fashion?
2.What is the correct attire for the young woman of the millenium?
3. What kind of clothes can i look forward to wearing after your revolution?
4. Do you own a mullet?
5. Are you from the valley?
Expensive? Two pairs of pants for 35 ...
Expensive? Two pairs of pants for 35 bucks is expensive? Where do you shop?
Sweatshops? Show me any clothes cheaper than 'steins thate aren't mad in China or country of similar ilk.
Mr. Pennywise i posted my reply in ...
Mr. Pennywise
i posted my reply in the Wrong box but nevermind
anyhoo after my revolution expect to be wearing Tye-Dies and Hippie Pants and dresses. and what valley are u talkin about dude?
i just bought a $500 woolen jacket, is ...
i just bought a $500 woolen jacket, is it cold where you are?
mark wahlberg wasn't in NKOTB. his ...
mark wahlberg wasn't in NKOTB. his brother donnie was.
donnie went on to tackle major motion picture roles such as "guy who shoots himself in the head" in the sixth sense.
mark was white rapping extrodinaire marky mark, up there with vanilla ice....ice ice baby.
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whups. sorry. wrong name. i always mix ...
whups. sorry. wrong name. i always mix the two up. i meant donnie.
donnie has been in heaps of movies. i believe he was in ransom... and uhh...
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Vanilla Ice - huh now theirs somebody ...
Vanilla Ice - huh now theirs somebody else in recipient of the US Welfare System
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Why is everyone so angry? I mean does ...
Why is everyone so angry? I mean does it really matter? Who cares if some little girls like pop stars!