first and foremost thanks to all who have responded to my posting. i must make a few ajustments and feedback to those who have posted similar or different opinions - first, why should us headbangers have artificially created and talentles Rubbish AKA Pop Music shoved down our throats 24/7? is this the beginning of the new world order or sumthin? if it is, the NWO sucks dick. secondly J2 Is pretty cool - some great as 80's music is played like the cure and Duran Duran and none of that corporate late 90's manufacured/fake pop groups. Thirdly i cannot escape Juice - My Sisters watch it religiously and it pissess me off majorly. Juice TV Is a tool of corporate america so they can suck in as many kiwi youths as possible to get them to become puppets of the Corporate world and to suppress those who oppose.

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hey division, guess what? Pop music is Rigged, it requires no talent to make - just good looks and the ability to publically humiliate yourself. all these popstars are, are just lamerz like yourself who pathetically attempt to draw attention to themselves, they are more obsessed with their looks than musical ability (whatever that maybe) i suggest that you crank up a oh say Judas Priest or Slayer Song on your Stereo and youll be suprised to learn that Heavy Metal aint all that bad. cos Popstars (and their teenybopper fans) are just corporate Puppets.

Hey Teeny Glassons Freaks - pick up a Pantera or Deep purple CD and you will be amazed on how much talent these guys have. Playing Chords in Drop D is actually much better that stoopid clean cut gaybows and/or some Ditzy Blonde Hootchee singing to a computer generated talentless repetative beat created by their producer who actually writes all their songs.

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make that "definite point"

J2's rather nice, methinks...

i think the name of that programme u are searching for guys is 'cue' - they've stopped playing it frequently - but occasionally they play it on sunday mornings and friday nights....

simple piece of advice for you lucifer_sam - stop watching juice!!. lol. and i know what you're trying to say, and i do agree with you in a sense....but in some ways - this has the power to turn against you, if they started playing 'ure type of music' all the 'teenyboppers' would get all pissed off coz they are getting their fix, like everyone else in this forum has pointed out - juice tv is focused at a particular genre of music, because thats how they get the money, more people listen to the type of music they are playing...come on lets face it - they arent playing the music for the people - they're playing it for themselves...they've gotta pay the bills somehow dont they?...sooooo - maybe you could request a song?...

i liked the old squeeze better - the new ones are too 'modern' - all edited and shit, i like the old programs where they never used to mind if there were ppl in b.o.s (back of shot) - like havoc...*ahhhhhh kurasik*....

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yeah Squeeze has a more commercial feel to it now, kind of a reflection on where NZ music is heading at the moment.

all i gotta say is that its a damned shame that saturn lost channel [V] and got juice instead, i cant say i watch juice a lot seeing as i have neither sky nor saturn but from what i hear it is awful and i am behind lucifer_sams cause. Having said that i am sure that juice plays some respectable music, it cant all be pop or rap

yeah to a degree. but there's no real structure to it - this is my main problem with juice. their shows seem more 'lifestyle orientated' rather than telling you what music they play. there doesnt seem to be a change in music relative to shows or presenters, which sucks. the only one i can really think of is 'crash' with bruce which seems a bit more rock-y.

why not have bop after school, rock late at night - and advertise it! so people know when they should tune in.

Yeah, I mean...anyone remember the MTV years?

true, maybe Sky should do some market research.
J2 rocks.

gotta agree that J2 is cool, most of the time they dont play anything made after 1992. but yeh it makes me laugh out loud when they play cheezy 80s vids like wham (never considered that back then george michael would 15 years later get caught biffing off in the mens room) and larff even louder watching those dopey 80s haircuts

hey if u work closely related to juice TV, give them a sweet simple msg from me - JUICE TV SUCKS FAT COCK and all their mindless fans and hosts are so trendy, it wants to make me vomit twice. hey funkybitch can i suggest u check out mulch on M2, sure it maybe on late, but if u want metal then 4am saturday mornigns are the time to tune in, if u now excuse me ive gotta head off to work. l8r

so how exactly do we choose this channel?

yes, ok, misinterpretation. HOW DO WE WATCH IT?

// they also had 'mcm'

yeah that was on Sky for a while, choice Euro stuff.

//mcm

Ah yes, I remember mcm - some choice French indie. I didn't care much for the overdubbed interviews but being quite fluent in French, it wasn't that bad.

still had the budget and contacts to screen some half-way house decent live concerts now & then... nothing like another rinsed out eagles tour.

MCM etait tres choette! Les idiots a Sky!