nothing better than going hard to your favourite band really, but i only enjoy it when i'm not packed up like a sardine and have room to move. otherwise you're concentrating too much on the drunken big guy's armpit in your face to truly appreciate the wonderful bands in front of you (real life incident i'm referring to: fur patrol, weta and shihad in nelson 1999/2000). still, sometimes i love just sitting at the back, watching everyone else hurt themselves and looking for the technical aspects of the band's performances.
crowd surfing is a bit of a mixed bag i think. i couldn't believe it when i heard the big day out people were banning crowd surfing to 'improve safety' - when i went to bdo 2001 and was in the limp bizkit mosh, i couldn't breathe.... there were too many people bigger than me and more angry than me, and i got very claustrophobic very fast. i couldn't get out cos i was in the front few rows, so i got a guy next to me to lift me up and hey! presto i was on my way to the front. i heard a few girls yelling at me ('you fucken drunken asshole, get a life' - shit i didnt know i'd been drinking), but they were muffled as my ass engulfed their face and they strained hard to push me to the awaiting security guards as quickly as poss.
personally i don't see how this sort of happening could hurt people? i would have thought that it made it safer - freeing up a bit of room and getting paranoid teenagers out of the mosh quickly......?
not to mention those lucky girls getting a piece of my rear.
I'll tell ya what bugs the hell out of me about crowd surfers, you have to be constantly looking behind you so you don't get a foot in the back of the head. Kinda distracts from the band you are trying to listen to and watch.
I thought that the moshing/crowd surfing decision was amazing! God bless the person who dreamt up the D baracade - pure genius. New order were absolutely amazing thanks to that D baracade. When I saw the cure at Livid, I thought my insides were about to spew out of my mouth, and exausted corpses were being pried out of the mosh left right and center. I believe that moshing and crowd surfing is NOT ESSENTIAL, and if everybodies wellbeing is the price of this fucking annoying ritual... fuck it off then, ban it! If people were really there to see the band playing they would spend so much time pushing people around and shoving their arses in peoples faces!
Oh, and jimi, don't be so sure that those people grabbing your arse were girls...
A friend of mine has been to a few BDOs and a couple of years back, one genius decided to rip off a piece of the plastic turf protector a hiff it a hard as he could into the crowd. My friend got sconed in the head by it. She had a heck of a gash and her forehead looked like frankenstein's for a couple of weeks. She now wears a helmet to concerts.
I saw people hiffing around a pair of sunglasses.
Also this one guy thought he'd be nice and rip up some of the plastic turf for his girlfriend to stand on so she could have a better view (didn't work). Needless to say later on I had my foot squashed between plastic that someone happened to stand on, thanks dude.
guess you won't be at the next cypress hill show then?
and you don't have to be so hard on yourself soldierman... can't be that bad being a drafted hick can it? n'mind.
I don't know what pot you have smelled (maybe someone farted and told you it was pot smoke), but never have I smelled pot and thought of a toilet. And what if pot does smell a bit? The people who smoke it are mellowed out, and generally more appreciative of the music; I'd swap a big, sweaty, moshing man for a pot smoker at any concert.
Oh yeah, the smell of sweat usually annoys me alot more than pot smoke.
i shouldn't really laugh about this, but i've seen a few young napier patrons stage-dive straight to floor!! now who hasn't really... but did you hear and feel them hit the floor over the full volume of the front-house p.a.?
i think this explains some of our infamous munters from Naps quite clearly. The good ol days at the State when everyone gets trollied & gets fuct over...good times, good times.
Ive seen a few goodies like two guys moshing and smashing their heads together and both comering with a little help from their bottled friend, uncle filthy vodka..sad but true.
mmm yes, i must say crowd surfing would be handy to get outta a crowded mosh pit...if i ever tried it....after seeing people bail onto their heads its sorta put me off...when i was at parachute last year, i watched like 15 people carried away to ambulances cus they got nailed by people dropping them. its pretty annoying tho when there you are going hard in the mosh pit, just managing to breathe and avoid being stopped to death and some fuck arse whos off his face and weighs like 100 kgs, jumps onto you when you least expect it, nails you and breaks your arms off when you try to hold the heavy bastard up....sure it alright when little people are thrown in but a majority of them are twenty-ish males who are more than a little heavy....not on i say....
and i hate the smell of weed at concerts and shit....we had a tent of fuckd up druggies right next to us at parachute as well and flip, it suckd....i dont mind the smell of it on occasion but it sorta gets to ya after a while....musty old marijuana....if you gonna smoke it...you should go far far away....so normal people who arent fucking up their lifes caqn rock on with the pleasant smell of sweat and dust and other sweet concert smells....
and my overall dislike about concerts is fighting,....not just concerts, you get it everywhere, but i hate it how guys try to staunch out other guys or their looking at their chicks so they get all territorial and start shit....thats why i never go to concerts with boys...well the boys that i know...they tend to fuck everything up...so any guys in here who think they cool and strong cus they start fights, your not...girls dont like it...it justs spoils their fun....
you HATE it when people generalise about christians and cristian bands, but when it comes to people who smoke pot, you go right ahead and call them 'fucked up druggies'. I would argue that christianity has fucked up many more lives than pot has! So there!
And I would think twice before calling all people who smoke pot not normal. You may be surprised at who smokes pot.
goodness me....ok...let me rephrase...."fuckd up druggies" = a group of individuals smoking a substance known as marijuana and generally acting like fuck heads...that better?? srry to offend, but all the people i know that smoke it, including half of my friends have fuct up their lifes because of it and i dont have "pleasant" tendencies toward it alright??? i think it fucking sucks...but each to their own.....you guys can go hard!!!
and manamana, i was joking son....who enjoys the smell of sweat and dust??!!! fuc i aint that queer....ahrd to believe but i aint....
pooas i think you'd be trippin off all this wonderful pot you've been smoking man cus i never said i HATE it when people generalise about christian....please feel free to prove me wrong.....but thats twice now you've tried to bum me out with things i never said.....a piece of advise : you should actually read what people write before grilling them....
okay butterfly, you win, you never said that you didn't like it when people generalise about cristian bands. But, you did however, demonstrate it.
EVIDENCE A: GENERALISATION ABOUT CHRISTIAN MUSIC
man i hate christain bands they all sound the fucking same
well if it does it for u!
Judy
EVIDENCE B - BUTTERFLY'S OBVIOUS ANNOYANCE WITH THE GENERALISATION
well that shows how many christian bands you've listened to then doesnt it Judy!!!.....if you actually followed any, you'd find that each has their own distinctions just as a non christian band....just being christian doesnt make the music different....
BuTteRfLY...
there you go.
Oh, and just so you know, I usually don't smoke pot.
It just goes to show how narrow minded you can be if you use marijuana as a scapegoat for all these problems. NEWS FLASH, it's not chemically addictive. Why don't you start talking about alcohol, which contributes to many many more problems. Do think that because it's legal it's alright? Or is it becuase Jesus turned water into wine? I am sure I know many more people who smoke pot than you do, and yes, I'll agree with you, if overindulged it can have a detrimental effect. But if you are going to say this about pot, be sure to mention alcohol, junk food, perscription drugs, non perscription drugs, poppy seeds, exercise, non-exercise, RELIGION and probably every other human activity you can think of.
Oh, and yeah, why don't you go over to Amsterdam for a while. People smoke pot everywhere, you can get it in Cafés, and you tell me if the whole fucking society has "fuct up their lifes because of it."
GOD DAMN IT people like you can PISS ME OFF!!!!!??!?!?!?!??!@$
yep, that would be a demonstration of it wouldnt it.....fair enough, you proved me wrong...but i was never directing the comment "fucked up druggies" at all the people who smoke pot, just those who were in the tent next to us, but i can see how it would be taken as a generalisation so srry if i offended anyone....
any way moving on, you may very well know more people that smoke pot than i do but how would that handy peice of info change what i think about weed?? i have based my opinion of it on how it has changed some of my best friends.....half of my past boyfriends, now they are dependent on it, they've got debt coming outta their arse cus each paycheck goes toward a tinny so they are trapped in the vicious cycle of addiction......i feel that way about all drugs....so people can handle it, only taking shit once and a while and i know alot of people like that as well.....they take an e every couple of weeks when they go clubbing, and thats sweet......maybe its only the addiction i dont like.....i never meant to wind u up pooas.....
and i never said anythinga bout alcohol because it was never brought up....but because you have, my opinion stays similar to it is about drugs....some people are able to handle it, they just drink every once in a while...like me....but then theres other like my best friend who cant go through a weekend without drinking because it'll be boring.....i think its sad.....
so you yourself are generalising in saying thats theres nothing wrong with weed cus there is....but i cant say that fucks up everyones life that smokes it cus there are plenty fo people that can handle it......same with alcohol....u get what i mean??
i didnt mean to stir u up pooas....
Obviously Butterfly, how you spell 'advice'. is not my only arguement, or the only thing I have to attack your opinion on,as my response to your last comments...its just ironic...advice, you cant spell it, but your giving it kind of funny, verging on hilarious. Of course conflicts of opinon is an argument thats precisley what an argument is..thanks for stating the fukkin obvious. Never have I mentioned that I am right or that you are right, I was trying to explain to such an ignorant kid as yourself that pot has different uses...
as for the people in the tent next you...no one gives a flying fuck if they were smoking up, or what they were saying...dont display your pathetic remarks on here, it puts you up ridicule...so easy, so easy.
Butterfly as for you not trying to 'stir anyone up', you made that comment...being strong about your opinion, there is nothing wrong with that in the slightest...but just as you are, I too am entitled to express my point of view.
As for you being a christian...you are far too nefarious.
urgh...i've had enough...you're too angry and dont read what i wrote properly.....i dont care anymore...this has gone on too long and i will quote from the ever wise Samflux and say "its boring".....
this was my favourite
"half of my past boyfriends, now they are dependent on it, they've got debt coming outta their arse cus each paycheck goes toward a tinny so they are trapped in the vicious cycle of addiction......"
each paycheck must thus total around $20-25 dollars. My advice would be, if have a paper run, you can't afford to smoke pot.
I certainly agree with you that this topic is now mundane, Im not angry, Im passionate...ha ha thats certainly a sugar coating, but certain things fuck me off, & some of your comments made me a little concerned to say the least. Im over it, but generalised statements are no way to get in the good books...this is wearing thin.
look i'll say again...i wasnt generalised when i said fucked up druggies, i was only talking about the people in the tent next to us...but anyway, whos gives a fuc.....we'll just agree to disagree....dribblegrass....hehe....opps, maybe i shouldve put tinny'S....all they spend it on in drugs and piss....one night when i was just hanging out with them they went back to their "supplier" like 5 times.....sad sad boyz....
Butterfly...tut tut tut. for a young christian lass, you sure swear a lot, now dont ya? I agree with pooas, you are fuct off @ others opinions re: christian saga, but love to bust shit about drugs etc, when you have a very feble argument...you have also pigeon holed people. so explain this one doll face, if a person is using pot as a medical aid - are they a, quote 'fuct up druggie' unquote? and if a person uses pot as others do in their religion - are they too a fuct up druggie?? I too agree w/ pooas w/ pot vs fukking insane religions that slaughter people in their masses...how can you even compare the two I say.If you dont like weed, fair enough, no one probably cares but you...but dont generalise the people who use cannibas they are people too, that deserve that right, it is none of your pathetic concern.
As for 'tripping' off weed ....ahh no. advice is also spelt ADVICE...quote 'queer' unquote, is this also abNORMAL to the likes of you? but thanks for you fukking opinion anyway...butterfly....fly away now...fly away...
no worries man....its all good....we just have different opinions thats all...theres both good and bad consequences to smoking pot i suppose.....but ne way...lets forget bout it....
apologising comes naturally to me....because i have to do it so much cus im always getting myself into troble with my big ol' fat mouth!! ;)
firstly, IM NOT A FUCKING CHRISTIAN!!! so will people stop calling me on....i believe in god, i dont follow the christian lifestyle...i dont go to church, i dont read the bible, i drink i swear, i smoke...ok????
secondly, i never meant to offend anyone aight?? so get your knickers off, un-twist them and settle down...
i have already said that when i said "fucked up druggies" i was referring to the people in the tent next to us at parachute....not all drug users in general ok???? the guys next to us were fuck heads, they said "hey man, our tent would look cool on fire!" so they sat there trying to light the canopy with a packet of matches while we were sitting there eating tea.....thats sorta what i called fuct....ok???
if some sorta religion smokes pot, then good for them.....i wouldnt really care...it what they believe in so.....go hard
also i dont really give two blows of a trumpet how you spell advice....woopee shit and if that the only angle youve got to attack me then id say your the one with the feeble argument....and mine aint feeble, its opinion...and u'll find that most arguments are based on the conflints of opinions....you cant ever say "im right and your wrong"....
as for my "pathetic concern", i aint offering it....but obvisiously you've got enough of that for all the pot smokers out there....so im sure there wont be a problem there....
i never meant to stir anyone up, ive said that plenty of times and you can either accept my apology for the scrambled wires or you can pack a shit in the corner, mumbling "fly away butterfly just fly away"....your choice....
My best friend has smoked pot every day all day since he was 15, and he is now an engineer for a big company, making mad cash???? But when i occasionally smoke it i feel really lethargic and just want to eat and watch tv. For me its not a great motivator and i tend to lose my social skills, but hell its perfect for a lazy Sunday.
why anyone would want to go and see a mellow band live is beyond me. moshing completes the whole atmosphere of concerts. but i agree that it's kinda irritating when certain people start pushing the whole f*#kin crowd around for no apparent reason. it's only annoying when it's totally unecessary. crowd surfing is (apparently) really fun, i suppose you have to be the one doing it to enjoy it though.
People go to live shows for different reasons. I personally go to live concerts for pure thrill of seeing one of my favourite artists live and, of course, to be entertained by an exciting performance. I don't care if the music is soft or loud, but sometimes I leave the venue with a headache. I have found that quite often the best part of the concert is when the singer pulls out an acoustic guitar and plays a few tunes unplugged. But maybe that's the folkie in me.
I should make an effort to attend R18 gigs - less chances of being mauled by screaming girlies rushing in front of the stage or being slapped in the face by a wallet chain in the mosh pit (if there is one!).
// I have found that quite often the best part of the concert is when the singer pulls out an acoustic guitar and plays a few tunes unplugged.
Yeah kinda the same for me except it doesn't have to be an acoustic guitar just a different rendition of a song. I especially like it when some acts throw in a cover or incorporate a cover into their song, nice touches like that.
The vibe you get from a live performance doesn't have to come from jumping up and down it can come from the instruments, the vocals, the crowd.
Ok that last sentence of mine was stupid, I'd like to instead say that at small venues with a decent crowd most people dance, sway or nod their heads. I think the only time moshing is really a viable option is when there is a considerable density of people that restrict movement to up and down.
well...if you were into mellow, that would be precisely why you would go...if that comment was rhetorical youve already answered it, if not stupid statement, love.
For me I dont really get into the bands & type of music I did a while ago, but rocking up hardcore was good occassionally...Im def.over it. But thinks its rad when people are expressing the music that they love like that...
yes i agree that was kind of a stupid way to put it, which is what i thought as i was writing it but i thought i'd write it anyway since i had already written it. i was just emphasizing the fact that i think it's wicked when the whole crowd gets into it, even though acoustic can do alot for some people.
Just be careful what you do with your elbows...i got hit in the CHIN by an elbow @ parachute and ended up with a concussion!!...if anyone can explain this phenomenon/injury, pls reply i dunno why i passed out i felt fine b4 and after ending up on the ground...THANKS to Aleshia who pulled me out and looked after me :)
I hate sweaty people brushing against me.. & when they're sticking their arms up in the air & their yucky smelly hairy armpits are in my face... ugh.
I don't like the smell of ciggies or alcohol @ concerts, but I can't say I mind the weed.
So, after concerts I go home all stinky & have to spend AGES in a shower.
//I hate sweaty people brushing against me.. & when they're sticking their arms up in the air & their yucky smelly hairy armpits are in my face... ugh.
Ha! Classic, but being a little too graphic are we? I just had dinner, fer chrissakes! Anyway, I also hate getting big thickets of hair in my face - at concerts, that is.
Lol, sorry. Yes, I think it should be compulsary for girls (& guys) with long hair to tie it up. It's also annoying having long hair in your face, luckily I'm kinda tall so I'm above lotsa the chics. Or what about curly hair.. It's the worst since it doesn't stay anywhere near it's owners head!
Anyone who is drunk in a crowd and gesturing like they are signalling an aircraft to land whilst holding a cigarette should be made to clean the mens toilets with their tongue. Many times I have narrowly escaped from becoming a human shesh kebab on a cigarette skewer.
Then there are those people that play lotto by flicking their burning cigarette butts up in the air so it can either land on the ground or on some poor unsuspecting persons head. Any person that exercises that much stupidity or finds that kind of behaviour humorous deserves to be mosh pit carpet.
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hmmm. nothing better than going hard ...
hmmm.
nothing better than going hard to your favourite band really, but i only enjoy it when i'm not packed up like a sardine and have room to move. otherwise you're concentrating too much on the drunken big guy's armpit in your face to truly appreciate the wonderful bands in front of you (real life incident i'm referring to: fur patrol, weta and shihad in nelson 1999/2000). still, sometimes i love just sitting at the back, watching everyone else hurt themselves and looking for the technical aspects of the band's performances.
crowd surfing is a bit of a mixed bag i think. i couldn't believe it when i heard the big day out people were banning crowd surfing to 'improve safety' - when i went to bdo 2001 and was in the limp bizkit mosh, i couldn't breathe.... there were too many people bigger than me and more angry than me, and i got very claustrophobic very fast. i couldn't get out cos i was in the front few rows, so i got a guy next to me to lift me up and hey! presto i was on my way to the front. i heard a few girls yelling at me ('you fucken drunken asshole, get a life' - shit i didnt know i'd been drinking), but they were muffled as my ass engulfed their face and they strained hard to push me to the awaiting security guards as quickly as poss.
personally i don't see how this sort of happening could hurt people? i would have thought that it made it safer - freeing up a bit of room and getting paranoid teenagers out of the mosh quickly......?
not to mention those lucky girls getting a piece of my rear.
I'll tell ya what bugs the hell out of ...
I'll tell ya what bugs the hell out of me about crowd surfers, you have to be constantly looking behind you so you don't get a foot in the back of the head. Kinda distracts from the band you are trying to listen to and watch.
AGREED :(...
AGREED :(
I thought that the moshing/crowd ...
I thought that the moshing/crowd surfing decision was amazing! God bless the person who dreamt up the D baracade - pure genius. New order were absolutely amazing thanks to that D baracade. When I saw the cure at Livid, I thought my insides were about to spew out of my mouth, and exausted corpses were being pried out of the mosh left right and center. I believe that moshing and crowd surfing is NOT ESSENTIAL, and if everybodies wellbeing is the price of this fucking annoying ritual... fuck it off then, ban it! If people were really there to see the band playing they would spend so much time pushing people around and shoving their arses in peoples faces!
Oh, and jimi, don't be so sure that those people grabbing your arse were girls...
A friend of mine has been to a few BDOs ...
A friend of mine has been to a few BDOs and a couple of years back, one genius decided to rip off a piece of the plastic turf protector a hiff it a hard as he could into the crowd. My friend got sconed in the head by it. She had a heck of a gash and her forehead looked like frankenstein's for a couple of weeks. She now wears a helmet to concerts.
I saw people hiffing around a pair of ...
I saw people hiffing around a pair of sunglasses.
Also this one guy thought he'd be nice and rip up some of the plastic turf for his girlfriend to stand on so she could have a better view (didn't work). Needless to say later on I had my foot squashed between plastic that someone happened to stand on, thanks dude.
We can also do away with pot smoking at ...
We can also do away with pot smoking at concerts. I went to the Beastie Boys show some years back and the entire hall smelled like a toilet.
that comment can be left to personal ...
that comment can be left to personal opinion now can't it?
how can you call yourself a soldier when you can't even troop through a smellin' loo?
people will do what people do...
Ahem. I'm one of the goodie soldiers - ...
Ahem. I'm one of the goodie soldiers - not some drafted hick.
guess you won't be at the next cypress ...
guess you won't be at the next cypress hill show then?
and you don't have to be so hard on yourself soldierman... can't be that bad being a drafted hick can it? n'mind.
I don't know what pot you have smelled ...
I don't know what pot you have smelled (maybe someone farted and told you it was pot smoke), but never have I smelled pot and thought of a toilet. And what if pot does smell a bit? The people who smoke it are mellowed out, and generally more appreciative of the music; I'd swap a big, sweaty, moshing man for a pot smoker at any concert.
Oh yeah, the smell of sweat usually annoys me alot more than pot smoke.
Maybe because the toilets I use are ...
Maybe because the toilets I use are frequented by pot-smokers?
i shouldn't really laugh about this, ...
i shouldn't really laugh about this, but i've seen a few young napier patrons stage-dive straight to floor!! now who hasn't really... but did you hear and feel them hit the floor over the full volume of the front-house p.a.?
ha ha ouch.
i think this explains some of our ...
i think this explains some of our infamous munters from Naps quite clearly. The good ol days at the State when everyone gets trollied & gets fuct over...good times, good times.
Ive seen a few goodies like two guys moshing and smashing their heads together and both comering with a little help from their bottled friend, uncle filthy vodka..sad but true.
mmm yes, i must say crowd surfing would ...
mmm yes, i must say crowd surfing would be handy to get outta a crowded mosh pit...if i ever tried it....after seeing people bail onto their heads its sorta put me off...when i was at parachute last year, i watched like 15 people carried away to ambulances cus they got nailed by people dropping them. its pretty annoying tho when there you are going hard in the mosh pit, just managing to breathe and avoid being stopped to death and some fuck arse whos off his face and weighs like 100 kgs, jumps onto you when you least expect it, nails you and breaks your arms off when you try to hold the heavy bastard up....sure it alright when little people are thrown in but a majority of them are twenty-ish males who are more than a little heavy....not on i say....
and i hate the smell of weed at concerts and shit....we had a tent of fuckd up druggies right next to us at parachute as well and flip, it suckd....i dont mind the smell of it on occasion but it sorta gets to ya after a while....musty old marijuana....if you gonna smoke it...you should go far far away....so normal people who arent fucking up their lifes caqn rock on with the pleasant smell of sweat and dust and other sweet concert smells....
and my overall dislike about concerts is fighting,....not just concerts, you get it everywhere, but i hate it how guys try to staunch out other guys or their looking at their chicks so they get all territorial and start shit....thats why i never go to concerts with boys...well the boys that i know...they tend to fuck everything up...so any guys in here who think they cool and strong cus they start fights, your not...girls dont like it...it justs spoils their fun....
~Yo Butterfly... Normal?? Please ...
~Yo Butterfly...
Normal?? Please clarify? Fucked up druggies?? Please clarify? You love to generalise, me thinks this maybe the case.
you HATE it when people generalise ...
you HATE it when people generalise about christians and cristian bands, but when it comes to people who smoke pot, you go right ahead and call them 'fucked up druggies'. I would argue that christianity has fucked up many more lives than pot has! So there!
And I would think twice before calling all people who smoke pot not normal. You may be surprised at who smokes pot.
// i hate the smell of weed at concerts ...
// i hate the smell of weed at concerts and shit
Weed smells better than shit, and BO and i dont even smoke it
goodness me....ok...let me ...
goodness me....ok...let me rephrase...."fuckd up druggies" = a group of individuals smoking a substance known as marijuana and generally acting like fuck heads...that better?? srry to offend, but all the people i know that smoke it, including half of my friends have fuct up their lifes because of it and i dont have "pleasant" tendencies toward it alright??? i think it fucking sucks...but each to their own.....you guys can go hard!!!
and manamana, i was joking son....who enjoys the smell of sweat and dust??!!! fuc i aint that queer....ahrd to believe but i aint....
pooas i think you'd be trippin off all ...
pooas i think you'd be trippin off all this wonderful pot you've been smoking man cus i never said i HATE it when people generalise about christian....please feel free to prove me wrong.....but thats twice now you've tried to bum me out with things i never said.....a piece of advise : you should actually read what people write before grilling them....
okay butterfly, you win, you never said ...
okay butterfly, you win, you never said that you didn't like it when people generalise about cristian bands. But, you did however, demonstrate it.
EVIDENCE A: GENERALISATION ABOUT CHRISTIAN MUSIC
man i hate christain bands they all sound the fucking same
well if it does it for u!
Judy
EVIDENCE B - BUTTERFLY'S OBVIOUS ANNOYANCE WITH THE GENERALISATION
well that shows how many christian bands you've listened to then doesnt it Judy!!!.....if you actually followed any, you'd find that each has their own distinctions just as a non christian band....just being christian doesnt make the music different....
BuTteRfLY...
there you go.
Oh, and just so you know, I usually don't smoke pot.
It just goes to show how narrow minded you can be if you use marijuana as a scapegoat for all these problems. NEWS FLASH, it's not chemically addictive. Why don't you start talking about alcohol, which contributes to many many more problems. Do think that because it's legal it's alright? Or is it becuase Jesus turned water into wine? I am sure I know many more people who smoke pot than you do, and yes, I'll agree with you, if overindulged it can have a detrimental effect. But if you are going to say this about pot, be sure to mention alcohol, junk food, perscription drugs, non perscription drugs, poppy seeds, exercise, non-exercise, RELIGION and probably every other human activity you can think of.
Oh, and yeah, why don't you go over to Amsterdam for a while. People smoke pot everywhere, you can get it in Cafés, and you tell me if the whole fucking society has "fuct up their lifes because of it."
GOD DAMN IT people like you can PISS ME OFF!!!!!??!?!?!?!??!@$
wasn't jesus supposed to be quite ...
wasn't jesus supposed to be quite partial to the gange or was that buddha? I forget.
yep, that would be a demonstration of ...
yep, that would be a demonstration of it wouldnt it.....fair enough, you proved me wrong...but i was never directing the comment "fucked up druggies" at all the people who smoke pot, just those who were in the tent next to us, but i can see how it would be taken as a generalisation so srry if i offended anyone....
any way moving on, you may very well know more people that smoke pot than i do but how would that handy peice of info change what i think about weed?? i have based my opinion of it on how it has changed some of my best friends.....half of my past boyfriends, now they are dependent on it, they've got debt coming outta their arse cus each paycheck goes toward a tinny so they are trapped in the vicious cycle of addiction......i feel that way about all drugs....so people can handle it, only taking shit once and a while and i know alot of people like that as well.....they take an e every couple of weeks when they go clubbing, and thats sweet......maybe its only the addiction i dont like.....i never meant to wind u up pooas.....
and i never said anythinga bout alcohol because it was never brought up....but because you have, my opinion stays similar to it is about drugs....some people are able to handle it, they just drink every once in a while...like me....but then theres other like my best friend who cant go through a weekend without drinking because it'll be boring.....i think its sad.....
so you yourself are generalising in saying thats theres nothing wrong with weed cus there is....but i cant say that fucks up everyones life that smokes it cus there are plenty fo people that can handle it......same with alcohol....u get what i mean??
i didnt mean to stir u up pooas....
thanks for the appology. I never ...
thanks for the appology.
I never generalised and said (or meant to imply) that there is nothing wrong with pot though.
Obviously Butterfly, how you spell ...
Obviously Butterfly, how you spell 'advice'. is not my only arguement, or the only thing I have to attack your opinion on,as my response to your last comments...its just ironic...advice, you cant spell it, but your giving it kind of funny, verging on hilarious. Of course conflicts of opinon is an argument thats precisley what an argument is..thanks for stating the fukkin obvious. Never have I mentioned that I am right or that you are right, I was trying to explain to such an ignorant kid as yourself that pot has different uses...
as for the people in the tent next you...no one gives a flying fuck if they were smoking up, or what they were saying...dont display your pathetic remarks on here, it puts you up ridicule...so easy, so easy.
Butterfly as for you not trying to 'stir anyone up', you made that comment...being strong about your opinion, there is nothing wrong with that in the slightest...but just as you are, I too am entitled to express my point of view.
As for you being a christian...you are far too nefarious.
urgh...i've had enough...you're too ...
urgh...i've had enough...you're too angry and dont read what i wrote properly.....i dont care anymore...this has gone on too long and i will quote from the ever wise Samflux and say "its boring".....
this was my favourite "half of my past ...
this was my favourite
"half of my past boyfriends, now they are dependent on it, they've got debt coming outta their arse cus each paycheck goes toward a tinny so they are trapped in the vicious cycle of addiction......"
each paycheck must thus total around $20-25 dollars. My advice would be, if have a paper run, you can't afford to smoke pot.
I certainly agree with you that this ...
I certainly agree with you that this topic is now mundane, Im not angry, Im passionate...ha ha thats certainly a sugar coating, but certain things fuck me off, & some of your comments made me a little concerned to say the least. Im over it, but generalised statements are no way to get in the good books...this is wearing thin.
Dribbleglass...te he he...nice & funny, ...
Dribbleglass...te he he...nice & funny, so true, so true
look i'll say again...i wasnt ...
look i'll say again...i wasnt generalised when i said fucked up druggies, i was only talking about the people in the tent next to us...but anyway, whos gives a fuc.....we'll just agree to disagree....dribblegrass....hehe....opps, maybe i shouldve put tinny'S....all they spend it on in drugs and piss....one night when i was just hanging out with them they went back to their "supplier" like 5 times.....sad sad boyz....
your telling me! thats $100 worth. I ...
your telling me! thats $100 worth. I would have sold them half an ounce for that.
come and see me on saturdays after i ...
come and see me on saturdays after i mow the lawns - i'll sort you out for $50
Butterfly...tut tut tut. for a young ...
Butterfly...tut tut tut. for a young christian lass, you sure swear a lot, now dont ya? I agree with pooas, you are fuct off @ others opinions re: christian saga, but love to bust shit about drugs etc, when you have a very feble argument...you have also pigeon holed people. so explain this one doll face, if a person is using pot as a medical aid - are they a, quote 'fuct up druggie' unquote? and if a person uses pot as others do in their religion - are they too a fuct up druggie?? I too agree w/ pooas w/ pot vs fukking insane religions that slaughter people in their masses...how can you even compare the two I say.If you dont like weed, fair enough, no one probably cares but you...but dont generalise the people who use cannibas they are people too, that deserve that right, it is none of your pathetic concern.
As for 'tripping' off weed ....ahh no. advice is also spelt ADVICE...quote 'queer' unquote, is this also abNORMAL to the likes of you? but thanks for you fukking opinion anyway...butterfly....fly away now...fly away...
no worries man....its all good....we ...
no worries man....its all good....we just have different opinions thats all...theres both good and bad consequences to smoking pot i suppose.....but ne way...lets forget bout it....
apologising comes naturally to me....because i have to do it so much cus im always getting myself into troble with my big ol' fat mouth!! ;)
firstly, IM NOT A FUCKING CHRISTIAN!!! ...
firstly, IM NOT A FUCKING CHRISTIAN!!! so will people stop calling me on....i believe in god, i dont follow the christian lifestyle...i dont go to church, i dont read the bible, i drink i swear, i smoke...ok????
secondly, i never meant to offend anyone aight?? so get your knickers off, un-twist them and settle down...
i have already said that when i said "fucked up druggies" i was referring to the people in the tent next to us at parachute....not all drug users in general ok???? the guys next to us were fuck heads, they said "hey man, our tent would look cool on fire!" so they sat there trying to light the canopy with a packet of matches while we were sitting there eating tea.....thats sorta what i called fuct....ok???
if some sorta religion smokes pot, then good for them.....i wouldnt really care...it what they believe in so.....go hard
also i dont really give two blows of a trumpet how you spell advice....woopee shit and if that the only angle youve got to attack me then id say your the one with the feeble argument....and mine aint feeble, its opinion...and u'll find that most arguments are based on the conflints of opinions....you cant ever say "im right and your wrong"....
as for my "pathetic concern", i aint offering it....but obvisiously you've got enough of that for all the pot smokers out there....so im sure there wont be a problem there....
i never meant to stir anyone up, ive said that plenty of times and you can either accept my apology for the scrambled wires or you can pack a shit in the corner, mumbling "fly away butterfly just fly away"....your choice....
Different strokes for different folks i ...
Different strokes for different folks i say!
My best friend has smoked pot every day all day since he was 15, and he is now an engineer for a big company, making mad cash???? But when i occasionally smoke it i feel really lethargic and just want to eat and watch tv. For me its not a great motivator and i tend to lose my social skills, but hell its perfect for a lazy Sunday.
ps smells nice me thinks
why anyone would want to go and see a ...
why anyone would want to go and see a mellow band live is beyond me. moshing completes the whole atmosphere of concerts. but i agree that it's kinda irritating when certain people start pushing the whole f*#kin crowd around for no apparent reason. it's only annoying when it's totally unecessary. crowd surfing is (apparently) really fun, i suppose you have to be the one doing it to enjoy it though.
People go to live shows for different ...
People go to live shows for different reasons. I personally go to live concerts for pure thrill of seeing one of my favourite artists live and, of course, to be entertained by an exciting performance. I don't care if the music is soft or loud, but sometimes I leave the venue with a headache. I have found that quite often the best part of the concert is when the singer pulls out an acoustic guitar and plays a few tunes unplugged. But maybe that's the folkie in me.
I should make an effort to attend R18 gigs - less chances of being mauled by screaming girlies rushing in front of the stage or being slapped in the face by a wallet chain in the mosh pit (if there is one!).
// I have found that quite often the ...
// I have found that quite often the best part of the concert is when the singer pulls out an acoustic guitar and plays a few tunes unplugged.
Yeah kinda the same for me except it doesn't have to be an acoustic guitar just a different rendition of a song. I especially like it when some acts throw in a cover or incorporate a cover into their song, nice touches like that.
The vibe you get from a live performance doesn't have to come from jumping up and down it can come from the instruments, the vocals, the crowd.
Ok that last sentence of mine was ...
Ok that last sentence of mine was stupid, I'd like to instead say that at small venues with a decent crowd most people dance, sway or nod their heads. I think the only time moshing is really a viable option is when there is a considerable density of people that restrict movement to up and down.
well...if you were into mellow, that ...
well...if you were into mellow, that would be precisely why you would go...if that comment was rhetorical youve already answered it, if not stupid statement, love.
For me I dont really get into the bands & type of music I did a while ago, but rocking up hardcore was good occassionally...Im def.over it. But thinks its rad when people are expressing the music that they love like that...
yes i agree that was kind of a stupid ...
yes i agree that was kind of a stupid way to put it, which is what i thought as i was writing it but i thought i'd write it anyway since i had already written it. i was just emphasizing the fact that i think it's wicked when the whole crowd gets into it, even though acoustic can do alot for some people.
Just be careful what you do with your ...
Just be careful what you do with your elbows...i got hit in the CHIN by an elbow @ parachute and ended up with a concussion!!...if anyone can explain this phenomenon/injury, pls reply i dunno why i passed out i felt fine b4 and after ending up on the ground...THANKS to Aleshia who pulled me out and looked after me :)
Brain bouncing off skull = KO...
Brain bouncing off skull = KO
I hate sweaty people brushing against ...
I hate sweaty people brushing against me.. & when they're sticking their arms up in the air & their yucky smelly hairy armpits are in my face... ugh.
I don't like the smell of ciggies or alcohol @ concerts, but I can't say I mind the weed.
So, after concerts I go home all stinky & have to spend AGES in a shower.
//I hate sweaty people brushing against ...
//I hate sweaty people brushing against me.. & when they're sticking their arms up in the air & their yucky smelly hairy armpits are in my face... ugh.
Ha! Classic, but being a little too graphic are we? I just had dinner, fer chrissakes! Anyway, I also hate getting big thickets of hair in my face - at concerts, that is.
hey yeah, same really... i'd advise ...
hey yeah, same really... i'd advise some strategic maneuvours, 'pit for a 'pit in the pit?? truely horrid thought, aww enough already...
Lol, sorry. Yes, I think it should be ...
Lol, sorry. Yes, I think it should be compulsary for girls (& guys) with long hair to tie it up. It's also annoying having long hair in your face, luckily I'm kinda tall so I'm above lotsa the chics. Or what about curly hair.. It's the worst since it doesn't stay anywhere near it's owners head!
Long hair can be annoying, but has ...
Long hair can be annoying, but has anyone been beaten down by oscillating dreadlocks????....yeouch!!!
Anyone who is drunk in a crowd and ...
Anyone who is drunk in a crowd and gesturing like they are signalling an aircraft to land whilst holding a cigarette should be made to clean the mens toilets with their tongue. Many times I have narrowly escaped from becoming a human shesh kebab on a cigarette skewer.
Then there are those people that play lotto by flicking their burning cigarette butts up in the air so it can either land on the ground or on some poor unsuspecting persons head. Any person that exercises that much stupidity or finds that kind of behaviour humorous deserves to be mosh pit carpet.