Hard to do lately, huh? Venues are having to put up with inner-city apartment dwellers filing noise complaints (expecting crickets chirping and owls hooting, #$@%'m all...), on top of that rehearsal space is damn near impossible to find. I personally know of at least four Wellington-based bands who can't rehearse anywhere.
What we need to do is to let the music bring the people together. We can affect change.
Whatcha thinking?
-respect,


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hell yeah! what I wanna know is what ...
hell yeah! what I wanna know is what happened to that 10,000 plus signature petition that the matterhorn took to the council? did they really get a fat settlement and drop the cause or are bylaw changes afoot?
Ummm... fat settlement? I don't think ...
Ummm... fat settlement? I don't think so. As you may have heard, The Matterhorn are facing a huge refit (and a couple of months closure while it happens) to stay alive. And no, it's not Council-funded. A pity the WCC aren't as supportive as Dunedin's, who recently gave Arc a sizeable grant towards sound-proofing after some dickhead decided to build apartments through their back wall (sound familiar, Wellington?). I'm not sure what's the haps with bylaw changes (there was talk of "entertainment zoning"), although something tells me our new pro-bypass mayor doesn't care too much for the little guy.
Anyways, the Music Industry Commission have jumped on the issue lately, so there may be some hope... here's a recent un-chart-ed article I wrote on the whole affair:
Auckland live music venue The Temple has raised the stakes in its ongoing conflict with local noise control enforcement by launching an online petition requesting a review by the Auckland City Council of current noise control procedures and policies.
The petition requests that by-laws be changed to raise the current noise limit to a more realistic level, that noise measurement methods be changed, that inner city apartments require effective soundproofing, and that the Council's own Arts Agenda be adhered to.
A similar petition launched last year in Wellington by The Matterhorn bar (which still faces a major refit to curb noise levels) secured over 10,000 signatures requesting a review of inner city noise control by-laws, while the latest live music venue hit by nation-wide noise hassles is Dunedin's Arc Cafe, whose threatened closure has been avoided with the support of a significant Community Trust grant towards soundproofing.
To show your support for The Temple and other like-minded venues around the country, you can electronically sign their online noise control petition at www.temple.co.nz/noise.htm
Auckland's woes seem worse than ours. ...
Auckland's woes seem worse than ours. Temple have got a petition going online fighting the cause up there. we should help them out too.
[ http://www.temple.co.nz/noise.htm ]
this has always been a shitter, inner ...
this has always been a shitter, inner city dwellers really should come to expect being subject to all the noise.
pity-less.
they moved in after all the venues were ...
they moved in after all the venues were started, & complain when "the best nitelife in the country" starts up, what do they expect when they move into the middle of the town, im expecting the same when people move into flaats bout 500m from the wgtn stadium "those people r 2 noisy..." thanx 4 reminding me bout the bandz comin :)
New city residents need be be realistic ...
New city residents need be be realistic about the fact that 'livin in the city' aint gonna be the quiet life that intended it to be. What do you expect to hear when you move close to a music venue? As for practise space for bands??/, I'm all for it? I need a place to play, does anyone wanna join me find an outlet for the music???
I think the real problem lies with the ...
I think the real problem lies with the soundproofing and cheap building methods used in these apartments. Noise control have always said they get more complaints about the neighbour's stereos than venues. Why do people still buy these innercity apartments when they're obviously substandard with the soundproofing and there's no by-laws in place to enforce any form of soundproofing? 2 words "MOVE OUT". Make the greedy, corner-cutting companies who are responsible for these paint and plasterboard innercity sound nightmares be the ones to lose money.
And what did come about with that Matterhorn petition? Did the council just thank them politely and biff it in the bin or what? Surely the council can't ignore a peition signed by over 10% of wellington's population?
Speaking as someone who has recently ...
Speaking as someone who has recently moved into the city from the leafy 'burbs -I'd like to say that it's actually *quieter* living in the city within. Okay - I'm not living in a hastily 4x2ed quick-fix developer's dream new apartment (feel those big solid brick and plaster walls baby!), and those developers need a good long talking to, but I am less disturbed by the hum of cars, the 'raork' of seagulls near the fish place, the ocasional siren, and the smell of the L'affare roasters going for that special flavour they bring to their beans. These friendly urban noises beat the crap out of mid-life crisesised men and women with an overindulgence in keeping the lawns and edges well-trimmed and maniacs with leaf blowers and garden-material shredders, rugrats on trampolines, and teenagers learning about amateur mechanics in dad's garage on Saturday afternoons... urban hum beats the screams of the twostroke engine and the cries of wailing of plantlife anyday ...
Ah yes, the sunday morning tradition: ...
Ah yes, the sunday morning tradition: mowing the lawns, hedge-trimming, a bit of chainsawing perhaps. Some sundays it sounds like Island Bay is in the middle of the blitz, such is the accumulated engine cacophony. I quite like the sound of the sea though, which is what you get 98% of the time in our little leafy 'burb.
Each to their own. But, as you point out, "a hastily 4x2ed quick-fix developer's dream" will let you hear each and every late-night drunken conversation, smashed bottle, boy-racer and distant party that's happening within a 1km radius. Buyer beware.
I thought the OMW in Newtown was still ...
I thought the OMW in Newtown was still available as a rehersal space
OMW went bust a few months ago as far ...
OMW went bust a few months ago as far as I can gather....I think it was on the ropes ever since Pete "the father" J left....'twas a great wee spot back in its day....Shihad, Weta, HLAH, Brubeck and more, all the Welly Rawk greats passed thru its doors at one time or another...They also recorded a lot of legendary demo tracks there too..check out the B-sides of most of the Shihad singles pre GE..........the place was a bit stinky tho, too much band persperation methinks.
Aparently there is a new spot called the Church (formely the Wormhole ?) , I believe run by members of the Phoenix Foundation...who I'm sure do a good job.
Hey there, The Church- I was under ...
Hey there,
The Church- I was under the impression they had to deal with the whole noise thing too, with those new top-floor apartments being added to the building across the road. There is no escape. The Wellington music scene is being attacked right at its very roots.
Any musician who ever got anywhere has at some point annoyed their neighbours- with their practising, with writing dud songs, being out of tune, singing too loudly in the shower, hitting the wrong notes, argueing with other band members... Do people generally think that musicians can pull it all from thin air? When it's done well, it sure looks like it! But not without working through the bad stuff first.
I was listening to talk-back radio in a taxi on the way back home from work, the subject being 'the artists benefit,' or dole for musicians. Most callers, under some delusion that all musicians are affluent, or that a working musician's life is not only profitable (?) but also quite luxurious (??), scoffed at the idea of making them eligible for tax-payer funding. 'Absurd.'' It's all a big bunch of noise anyway.''Slackers.'
Well, to paraphrase Bill Hickman, you know those musicians like The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Buddy Holly, The Eagles... (insert Classic Hits FM playlist here...) -whose beautiful music has enriched and enhanced your lives throughout the the years? RRRRRRRRREAl f*ckin high on drugs. Loud. Annoying. Your parents couldn't stand them. But they practised and recorded it , and you liked it so much that you bought it, so that in the privacy of your own inner city apartment you can press play on your expensive Denon stereo whenever you f*ck'n well please...
I think it's the whole generation gap thing. People who are old/affluent enough to be able to afford inner city apartments and write city by-laws are not generally music makers. Their music collections they've had since they were 18, and playing them is their way of feeling young again, where as the 'racket' that todays musicians create only reminds them that they are old.
-Respect,
[ http://www.po-ha.com ]
When the scene gets through all this ...
When the scene gets through all this shit (it will), imagine the kind of music we'll all be hearing... :) I can't wait!
damn bro!? well at least my mums up on ...
damn bro!?
well at least my mums up on the gener-gap thing... she thought tool was the nineties pink floyd?
Sweetleaf- I didn't mean everyones ...
Sweetleaf-
I didn't mean everyones mums and dads, just the ones who are trying to silence us.
I guess it is fairly easy when you're ...
I guess it is fairly easy when you're fired up to lay blame without much prior thought, and I apologise. To be specific, there are many people who are accountable for the attempted murder of Wellington's music scene. Lets begin with the complainants- Inner city apartment dwellers, surgeons, lawyers, councilmen and women- people with more money at their disposal than most people, who believe as a result that they are entitled to luxurious surroundings. And why not? If I was considering purchasing something as significant as my own home, I would go to great lengths to ensure I was getting exactly what I wanted.
Obviously the overall quality of the home is important, but to extend this example further, I would also obviously consider the effect location has on my home- a great home in and of itself is all well and good, but if it was nestled between a public garden and a library, or two tattoo parlours, I certainly would let this impact apon my decision to live there. It is actually inseperable from the purchase of my home. If I really liked the home but yearned for a different location, I can call a house-moving company to put my home where I want. On the other hand I could also call my prospective neighbours (with my list of demands ready), and attempt to convince them that my needs are more important than their needs, and that before I buy the property they need to make certain modifications, at their cost, to their properties.
In either case, it is based on the assumption that I would take the purchase of my home seriously enough to have considered the effect of neighbouring properties beforehand. What a lot of established music venues/rehearsal spaces around New Zealand are spending valuable resources on are people who have not made these considerations. As a result, the neighbourhood is being held responsible for the ill-informed and rash decision making of inexperienced home-buyers. These people seem to have the City Council on their side. Is this fair?
... next installment: "2. The Council"