sorry i've gotta say...
the all blacks and fuck yeah. was waiting for someone to make a thread, but you all seem too cool for school. that's the serious business what they're laying down now. if they keep playing like fucking gods, rugby will become a huge sport. so build the stadium, anywhere, quickly beaurocrats and stop pissing away the cash.
and argentina, fuck yeah!
that's the best shit, southern mongrel ripping the england new asshole, fucking holy wars motherfucker!
just wanted to mention it, thoughts?
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My full-strength All Black XV:
15 Mils Muliaina
14 Joe Rokocoko
13 Conrad Smith
12 Luke McAlister
11 Sitiveni Sivivatu
10 Daniel Carter
9 Piri Weepu (yeah I know Byron's really the one, but sometimes I just can't shake my Wgtn bias)
8 Rodney So'oialo
7 Richie McCaw
6 Jerry Collins
5 James Ryan
4 Keith Robinson
3 Carl Hayman
2 Keven Mealamu
1 Tony Woodcock
16 Anton Oliver
17 Neemia Tialata
18 Ali Willliams
19 Ruben Thorne (would rather have Jono Gibbes there though)
20 Byron Kelleher
21 R Gear
22 Ma'a Nonu
ohh and JC for captain you fuckers . . . . .
oh and that bedpan stadium is a fuckin' stupid idea . . . . no way in hell it will be ready for 2011
if only thw westpac stadium was built properly in the first place . . . all ways the way though - stupid short sightedness rules supreme . . .
McAlister over Mauger? Mauger not even on the bench?
Maybe that's my Cantab bias coming out.
Just about coughed on my coffee when someone suggested that the best thing Graham Henry had done for the French test was dropping Chris Jack.
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//McAlister over Mauger? Mauger not even on the bench?
//Just about coughed on my coffee when someone suggested that the best thing Graham Henry had done for the French test was dropping Chris Jack.
Okay to explain my selections and because I think about this stuff way too much . . . .
15 Mils – This guy is very simply the best fullback in world rugby, he's fuckin' rock solid, never has a bad game in the black jersey, and this is very hard to say, but I'm not sure if even a fit Cullen would be able to kick him out of my team? Always the 2nd name to add to my team sheet – 1st being JC, but that's another story
14 Rokocoko - The rocket man is the shit, and hell he's still only a kid at what 23? No matter what anyone's being saying about his supposed slump in form, class like his doesn't just go away. Will surpass Cullens record for the most AB tries
13 Conrad – looks like the only real option for Tanas replacement, for now anyway, though he sometimes still gets thrown around like a rag doll
12 McAlister – Yeah mainly just because Im not much of a Mauger fan, Lukes way better at 2nd/5 than at 1st/5 – pretty novice paring at the centres though?
11 Sivivatu – Like Rokocoko, Sivivatu is the shit, 11 silky smooth tries from 10 games, nuff said.
10 Carter – Like you need a reason.
9 Weepu - Wellington bias
8 Rodders – The loosies unit is working as a wreaking machine and Rodders compliments McCaw & JC perfectly – fuck the haters
7 McCaw – Best cheater in the world
6 JC – Shit, you got a few hours . . . .
5 Ryan – Bit early on but this guy seems to be pretty solid, I just like what I've seen so far . . . plus he's what every team needs - a giant ginga
4 Robinson – Old School, I like what Zinny said about him "he’s all knees & elbows" (Chris Jack doesn't make my team cause he seems to be living off reputation)
3 Hayman – heh, he'll only make my team if he grows back the grizzly adams beard
2 Mealamu – With Mealamu and Weepu on the field it's like there are 5 lossies running around, also his line out throwing is fine, the problem has been that there's too much running around during line out time and the AB's are very slow to set up, line outs should be quick & simple goddamn it.
1 Woodcock – Hands down the best Loosehead prop in the world, shit pretty fast too, itching for a try.
16 Anton - Experience
17 Tialata – Shit this guy is going to be the MAN come 2011 and he's got a few years under his belt, hell he might even be old enough to start peaking for 2015, he's in there for his abilty to play both sides of the scrum, but I reckon he should just pick a side and run with it (probably TH)
18 Ali – Gave Ryan the nod over Ali, cause Ali comes off the bench like a runaway train
19 Thorne - Would rather have Jono Gibbes but since he's not in the squad - Thorne is a bloody good player, again fuck the haters
20 Kelleher – yeah should be in the #9 jersey but I just can't bring myself to do it
21 Gear – Just prefer the rocket man over Gear
22 Nonu – The perfect bench player
also, I though the AB vs France game as a contest was crap, yes the AB played bloody well, but it made for a very boring game, when those last 3 tries happened I almost couldn't care less . . . . I'd rather watch a game where we won by 1 point
In agreement with McAlistair over Mauger, I'm sorry but Mauger is fairly weak defensively and offensively is about the same as McAlistair. Has a reputation as a "genius" but if you have Carter playing inside of you then even an English second five would look good.
I also like Robinson, he is less "flighty" than Ali, although Ali did stand up and be counted on Saturday. However if the French start to resort to certain "tactics" as alluded to in the Rugby WC 1999 semi, then who would you rather have in your pack? The French I'm certain will be more physical than they were this weekend.
I'm a little worried about Oz - they seem to muck around all season doing sweet FA and then turn it on when they play the ABs. They are touting Mortlock and Tuiquri as a centre pairing vs D'Arcy and O'Driscoll in the Ireland test which would be a very good contest and a pointer perhaps towards their pool match next year at the WC.
// However if the French start to resort to certain "tactics" as alluded to in the Rugby WC 1999 semi, then who would you rather have in your pack? The French I'm certain will be more physical than they were this weekend.
Heh, I remember seeing the french "tactics" from all the way up in the millard stand once - imagine a team full of froggy Troy Flavells - Robinson is the horse for that course
Tuiquri at centre is a scary thought
Speaking of which - is Flavell a possible bolter if he has a good Super 14, replacing Thorne? Or is the squad pretty much decided upon?
I rate Lote wherever he plays, imagine the damage he could cause if he and Mortlock were running straight at Mauger ala 2009 WC semi with Mortlock vs McDonald! Gaps would definately open up for the likes of Latham et al to run through. Although having said that, we all remember the great experiment that wasn't ie Cullen at centre for 1999 WC.
Sorry - 2003 WC semi
//Speaking of which - is Flavell a possible bolter if he has a good Super 14, replacing Thorne? Or is the squad pretty much decided upon?
Thorne is one of the 22 in next years super 14 cotton wool club
And yes, good to see the Argies finally taking a big scalp away from home. The poms are in total disarray.
The Northern Hemisphere teams aren't even in the picture for next year's World Cup at the moment. The only teams that might trip us up are the Aussies and South Africans, who won't be as psychologically traumatised by the All Blacks current form as the Poms or French.
I've got a werid feeling in my guts that Ireland might just be starting to step it up for the WC . . . but then again maybe thats just the dodgy korma I had last night ??
Yes but the "Individual Thought Patterns" line up for Death is by far the best! Steve DiGiorgio and Gene Hoglund should have been grafted together at birth
What, not the "Human" line up??
Nope.
Don't get me wrong I love human but come on Gene kicks Seans ass any day of the week.
Just look at the output at the moment, Gene is still awesome (He taught Dave Lombardo how to double kick for fucks sake)and Sean is in Aghora (Wah Wah Wah).
Focus by Cynic is a grand album though
I'm with Lughead - the "Human" line up rules - esp. Sean Reinert. I remember when that shit first came out - i'd never heard drumming that technical or FAST. It amazes me how thin Scott Burns produced albums sound today, have you noticed? They sounded HUGE 15 years ago!!
The only thing that made Sean Technical was that he played with no drum seat.
Gene Is faster, more technical, more diverse, and he wrote all the guitar lines and lyrics for Dark Angel.
And yeah burns bites...
Now this could post over with compression thread.....
What is up with that kick sound... triggers ... bah
Maybe not so random... But still Random...
Still think Legion Though
Dan Seagrave though eh
What a man
Good on you rope for bringing it up. I always feel a bit of arugby geek, cos musicians and rugby don't seem to go to the same cool class at cool school. (that said, I was watching the game with a cassette-r and a lambs-er!)
Pretty emphatic game eh?
Digression...
Here in Japan, the local TV commentary blokes pronounce the "c" in Rokocoko like a "z". Rokozoko. I have absolutely no idea why. Maybe they heard that you weren't supposed to pronounce the "c" like normal, but got it wrong.
Still, they're 100% better than Mexted.
nothing's as bad as Ian Robertson's pronunciations in the EA rugby video games . . .
I am sick of all the union coverage over here ... but I cannot wait for the Tri Nations final ... surely we are short odds to make it now Sean Long is gone for Great Britain!
now we talking a MAN'S Sport.
its brutal and muscular , just like this Audioslave record I am listening too.
thinking Jerome Ropati should be in 17 for final though.
//now we talking a MAN'S Sport.
its brutal and muscular , just like this Audioslave record I am listening too.
I think you meant to say "Unlike"....
Who likes short shorts . . . . .
As in like Aussie Rules short shorts?
Yep, I would have Ropati in there for sure.
I reckon the week off will play into our hands ... our performance against GB was the most comprehensive win in the tournament so far. I do expect Aus to romp home against GB this week though, with Long gone, and them looking in disarray ... but hopefully that just leads to a bit of complacency for the Kangaroos. They have had nothing in attack all tournament, bar Inglis ... the final is very winnable.
Interesting re team announcement for this weekends test in Paris. I think gone are the days where you will get "the best" 15 players in the team, it will be more likely a team based on the opposition and where the AB coaches want to attack the opposition. You can't seriously tell me Nonu is better than McAlistair or Mauger (despite his faults), he is one dimensional. Sorry - two dimensional ie either run through or past opposition players. Apparently he has a "kicking game" but doesn't employ it often. That's because he doesn't use his brain to size up situations and use it appropriately. And I'm a long suffering Wellington supporter as well.....
Surely Henry is foxing?
McAlister's on the bench. If the Ma'a/Mils experiment goes tits up, Luke'll be on quick-smartish, either to replace Ma'a outright, or slip Ma'a to center, move Mils to fullback, and sub Leon off.
// it will be more likely a team based on the opposition and
// where the AB coaches want to attack the opposition.
// Apparently he has a "kicking game" but doesn't employ it often.
I think that's the key there. The All Blacks aren't going to be doing a lot of kicking this weekend. They're going to run hard and fast straight at the French backs as often as they can - a backline that looked a little gunshy against some of the All Black's harder runners last weekend. Throwing Ma'a at them will be giving them nightmares in the lead up to this match.
When we need a team that has to kick for position more often than we do against the French (who seem to be happy just to give it to us and let us run it back) and need a serious kicker in at 2/5, Mauger or McAlister will get the call.
speaking of running hard at the opposition... goooo Jerry!!!
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"Form VX" my hairy butt . . . . Jack hasn't been in form since JC knocked him the f**k out
Nonu was awesome on the wing for the lions where he was allowed to just roam free, 2nd/5 seems to be way too confined for him, Henry is full of shit about saying it's his best postion - still Mils will have a field day after running through the holes that Nonu has made
Mils at centre just reminds me too much of playing Cullen at centre, makes no sense, Mils is 100 x the full back that McDonald is
Hopefully Wales will face a 1st VX ?
England = pool match
France 1 = quater final
France 2 = semi final
Wales = final
almost feel sorry for Wales . . . almost
anyway back to the froggies, I was expecting to see a huge dust up for this game, but i see now that Pelous isn't playing so maybe that won't happen haha?
I think its a good move by the AB coaches - if they lose the test they can always say "well it actually wasn't our strongest team, we just wanted to see what would happen", and if they win it'll be "well we can actually beat a French team that probably won't be too different from the one next year in two different ways".
I don't think there will be too many dust ups, the front row of France are getting demolished by Woodcock and Hayman at the moment , they will be too tired from getting shunted around the park let alone eye gouge, ruck out testes etc.
I would like to see the French throw it out to their wingers in open play, Dominici is still a slippery player even though he looks like a little boy. That's how the French used to play and scare the bejeesus out of the opposition. Everyone remember the try from the end of the world at Eden Park all those years ago...???
And don't get me started re Eden Park vs Waterfront - I'm well over it!!!
// Everyone remember the try from the end of the
// world at Eden Park all those years ago...???
this one?
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I watched that just before the last test, amazing stuff, the speed that the ball came out of that ruck (well tackle, never really had time to become a ruck) is brilliant, some sloppy D by the AB's though
Ah yes - that one. Fantastic try. Quick winger splitting the defence, quick ruck ball and the French backline all set up then changing the direction of attack to score. IMO, one of the best tries ever, due to the fact that they needed it to win the game.
France will need some inspiration like that to win in the weekend. It was like their backline was afraid to accelerate and take on the defence . Mind you if JC and McCaw were lining me up I wouldn't be willing to take them on either.
I really wanna see what Jauzion can do as I've haven't really ever seen much of him, heard all the hype, but last weeks game was a bit like Henson during the lions tour for me . . . suppose it's pretty hard for those guys to do their thing when their fowards are getting shut down
Apparently Nonu has been pick "on form" - Henry and Smith said that Mauger was experiencing a dip in form, but that he would be back because "class was permanent". They rejected the notion that it had something to do with Mauger apparently meeting with Leicester Tigers management while in London. and that his mind wasn't entirely on the ABs. What's that Tui ad? Yeah, right.
Chug Chug....
Chug Chug....
Pretty impressed at the AB line up for Wales
and them Welsh boyos still think the've got a chance, well I say a big Pffffftttttt to them . . . . . .
// and them Welsh boyos still think the've got a chance,
// well I say a big Pffffftttttt to them
Chris Rattue had the right idea in the Herald today - "Sorry, but Wales are rubbish"
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Every year they turn up with a lot of gibbidy-gib in the talk department, and every year they play like a reserve grade team on an end-of-year trip to Majorca.
Okay, I hear the cry that now and then, Wales get real close. Real, real close. Real, real, real close.
And you know what? They still lose. And everyone still blathers on about their singing and their history and blah de blah de blah and how Blethyn someone or Gareth someone else had a really great game because they ran past this bloke or tackled that bloke.
Let's face it. Wales are rubbish. They are the village idiots of rugby union. They have fans who live for the game, administrators who've killed it and players who lie down for the cause.
Wales had a brilliant team of never-to-be-forgotten players 30 years ago. Since then, they've totally stuffed it up and they'll stuff it up again this weekend.
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you speeled Wales wrong. Its...
Kwheelsz
woah, that's a bit rough . . . . hahaha
dunno if they're the village idiots, but they are definatly the gayest team in the village . . . . . ;)
Chris Rattue sounds like a fucking aussie, fucking wankers when we're winning whingers when we ain't
may he be tailored a new face. new zealand has never produced anyone of tom jone's callibre. despite chris's bent, i'm hold fast to adage that scoring pussy rather than tries is the true mark of a man.
hi, admin, on the reread, i was hoping some changes could be done on that last post, could the word asshole be changed to 'face' and the first 'callibre' has gotta go....
And we think Aussies have God complexes when it comes to sport! Its pieces of journalism like that that fuel the fire of every other rugby playing nation to absolutely go ballastic when they beat the ABs. That whole superiority complex that no team can possibly come close to beating the ABs and how dare a nation of Welshmen insinuate that they can beat the ABs. Well if you don't think you can compete with the ABs, why bother turning up? I just hope Chris' article doesn't come back to bite him this weekend....and for that matter WC 2007. No wonder George Gregan enjoyed his sledge in 2003, with this type of reporting it makes it all the sweeter for the teams that do beat the ABs.
yeah, I suppose we get all high & mighty when Stephen Jones & the like dribbles on . . . . .