Missed it!

If they wanted to help NZ musicians they could of mentioned the site - especially if you wanted to see more updates on the Shihad story - lame-o's.

Don't watch TV - it's all bad.

dust

courtesy of:

Fully I saw that thing on tv.. the guys posting name ideas in the forum should feel special as they scrolled through some of the suggestions.. even the piss-take ones. hahaha.

yeah I saw your name and icon....

ahahahahahahaa....classic....megaccino, you crack me up girlfriend! ;)

Hey... I have a plan for bringing more people here, though I suppose it will mostly be Americans... Go to http://www.smalltime.com/anon.html & scroll down, near the bottom add our URL & send it away. The next person to visit will get that & (Hopefully) come here. I've been using it to promote my site.

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who does the judging for that mag... seems like they have thier head up thier arse.

I reckon they don't know shite!

//....written by monkeys bashing away at typewriters.

You betta STEP or be STEPPED STEFAN! ;^)

yeah we felt pretty shunned by these guys - thx a lot for your support Netguide - you are a really comprehensive and accurate view of the web - not.

I suspect that we are not mentioned deliberately. Hitwise, an awesomely accurate tracking engine, has us as in the top 10 websites that ALL NZers view (Music category) for the last quater of 2001. That means we compete with Audiogalaxy, MP3.com etc etc and still place in the top ten - maybe the only NZ based music site that does feature. Popularity /traffic wise we are up there. Design wise - well we got a few nods this year for our efforts so...
therefore I have no idea how they missed us.

I think it's because of 2 reasons:
1. We have not paid them any advertsing monies.
2. Someone suggested that the owners of MP3.net.nz have something to do with Netguide, and are bitter that we won the Bnet's. Do you know anything Noizy?

I'm sick of the media shunning us.

ahaha! no, I'm about as uniformed as you with regards to mp3.net.nz's affiliations except their 5% XTRA ownership. Those Aucklanders play things pretty close to their chests. I don't see any obvious link between the two. I do know they weren't *too* bitter about the bnet award -- probably less than me, in fact -- not getting nominated at all. 8-)

re Hitwise: I do know that hitwise don't track traffic from anyone using xtra as their ISP (xtra haven't bought into the hitwise scheme, and I think Clear might be giving it a miss as well), so that's about 75% of all Internet usage in NZ that gets missed in one hit. So you might want to treat their figures with a grain of salt. I got the big hitwise hard-sell at work a couple of weeks ago, in fact, and they let me have a browse around the site free of charge, and biggie.co.nz was absolutely *pummelling* everyone else in the nz music category. like many many times more traffic than anyone else. any mention of them in the netguide top 500?

And netguide: I talked with paul reynolds (editor of netguide) after the top 500 came out to give him a bit of stick about their inclusion of bandwave.com, and he said the editorial team that puts together the top 500 mag is different from the guys who look after the magazine proper, so it may just be (and appears to be) that the top 500 editors don't have a clue. the reviews of the sites that were there are pretty cursory, and I suspect they just round up half a dozen sites in a hurry, and don't look too deeply into the actual usefulness/accuracy/timeliness of each site. I remember when I was in it a couple of years back, they credited me with a lot more functionality than the site actually had at the time. I doubt there's any political motivation behind nzmusic.com's omission (is mp3.net.nz in there, incidentally? Is there an mp3 section? or just music? I don't have a copy at hand). Having said that, netguide have been quite nice to me over the years, so I may be biased. But, like nzmusic, I've never advertised with them (or anyone, to tell the truth -- bring on the advertising budget!), so their goodwill is nothing but that: goodwill. I wouldn't stress too much about getting missed out in the top 500 -- I think people who want to find out about nz music will find this site, and, as dust points out, nzmusic.com is hardly struggling for industry recognition. How many awards did you guys pull in last year?

as stefan said somewhere else "don't get me started on the media!" ... but, now that I have...

again, as dust points out, the jump from the evening post to nzpa resulted in the nzmusic.com reference getting dropped. I have friends who work in various media organisations around Wellington (print/tv/radio), and they reckon this sort of thing goes on all the time. it comes with the territory: news-providers (as nzmusic.com is in this instance) will nearly always lose their credit for the 'scoop' pretty early on. Stories get filed, someone else picks up the original story, rewrites it, passes it on, and so on... NZPA, it would seem, is particularly adept at stripping back the story to its basics. And, in defense of the media, the important part of the story is the story -- not the place where the story was first reported. On the other hand, a reference to nzmusic.com would have allowed interested parties to come and check out the forum (and have their say, if they wanted). The 'mainstream' (ie. non-Internet media) are perhaps a bit slow in realising the potential of the web as a source of ongoing news. I'm sure an online news source like Scoop would have had direct links to the forum, and I'm also sure that the day will come that newspapers will have little links (like they do in one of the nz music mags, is it real groove?) to '...more details online at this URL...' sort of thing.

shunned! dust, are they doing it deliberately, or are they just unawares?

"shunned! dust, are they doing it deliberately, or are they just unawares?"

Ahh who knows - just winding them up - to be honest I've lost most interest in Netguide type stuff (nothing against them though - keep it up I say). It was kinda cool a fair while ago but there are more sophisticated ways of finding you way around the web these days. Good luck to em - I was more bummed for a few seconds and then short term memory loss kicked in!

somedays you're feeling like quick moan!!!

definately channel z, pulled direct quotes out of these forums

the evening post.

The bad thing mainly is they decided to juicily misquote Tom - who has now unfortunately called all American's psycho's! He's very chilled about it though and they don't really care that much.

mostly the media are evil...

blink - nice call but dont forget her boredom buddy negaccino...

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nah. editing should be kept to a minimum. i like the fact that this isn't one of those forums where you can post and then keep on editing your message so it says

--[ edited by blink 12.01.02 ]-- etc....
like a thousand times under your comment, so no-one knows what you said in the first place.

I just like how you perfer to burn people who make stupid comments rather then edit their post's. I've been burnt by you guys once or twice in my time. Still crack up over teinas's "sucking some major mag" call

yeah the editing thing was discussed somewhere else here, don't remember where, I suggested 24 hours, but 5 minutes sounds even better. The coding could be hell though, he he, go programmers!

Hmm, I reckon longer than 5 mins.. AT least half an hour, actaually maybe 15 mins, 'cos some ppl have slower modems & it takes the larger boards here 1-2mins to load on busy days... plus it takes me a good 5 mins to type a decent sized comment. Can you really not do anything about media stealing your quotes?? Theres gotta be some copyright law that stops images of sites like this being shown w/out permission/credit.

Also, so I don't have to go to Rubicon or K'lee board...(I' busy)
Yeah, I believe you Butterfly. When Sam flux (??) pointed out your error, I thought it might be an innocent typo, as n is beside m. It's more annoying when theres 2 ns. Cos they are dumbasses who can't spell even if the words right under their noses. & megacinno would be pronounced completely differnetly.
Cheers
(By the way, I think I'm pretty mush done w/ the Rubicon & K'lee forums for now. Unless someone gets me excited again ;)

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I'm pretty much against editing of posts - typos are a given on the net as are stupid off the cuff remarks that people regret later. I think it's much better to post an "yeah I was wrong/angry/stupid. I'm sorry" type post than to go and edit or elete what you said and interrupt the flow of conversation for people reading later.

A better idea (I think) than editing would be a preview option for the post.

And the best idea above all would be to take a deep breath and count to 10 before hitting that "add comment" button.

hi there... now i know nzmusic.com workies would've never have changed my posts, but i am *sure* that once i typed a message here and it just dissapeared!... it wasn't important or anything so i dont mind, and i'm sure it was just a mistake as to why it disapeared, because i generally dont write anything rude or crude. heh, and that has happened to me on other websites to! maybe i am annoying people world over hehehehe. yup but i am always making typos and such.... but i'm not sure wether editiing things would be smart.... everyone here knows what is meant., even with my dreadful spelling ;-D

and just look at that! i should practise what i preach....i had three typo's in that little peice...im all red in the face now....