If I Had My Way.....

Submitted by clovenhoof on Wed, 2006-09-06 00:01

I would re-record "Churn" with the production of "Killjoy"

Comments

Submitted by noizyboy on Wed, 2006-09-06 00:24.

// I would re-record "Churn" with the production of "Killjoy"

brilliant.

I'd get Bic Runga to do an album of Cinematic covers.

Submitted by Devil Rider on Wed, 2006-09-06 00:38.

i'd go on tour with Dragon to the states in the 70's and tell them all to chillax....

Hey i like the Churn production...it has character. But yes Kiljoy is THE ONE

Submitted by noizyboy on Wed, 2006-09-06 00:46.

I'd also get Phoenix Foundation to do an album of Shihad covers.

Submitted by Heather on Wed, 2006-09-06 01:49.

I would see Dr Teeth and the Electric Mayhem Band, live.

Submitted by blink on Wed, 2006-09-06 02:50.

Supergroove would play a reunion show in my lounge.

Submitted by Heather on Wed, 2006-09-06 02:59.

NO! (stamps foot) My lounge!

Submitted by blink on Wed, 2006-09-06 03:08.

nah, sorry...i had dibs. but you could come.

Submitted by Heather on Wed, 2006-09-06 03:16.

fair do's (shamefaced). be sure to warn me well in advance so I can travel. If I had my way, the overlander would still be running.

Submitted by velocity on Wed, 2006-09-06 05:03.

If I had my way, I'd actually be able to go to New Zealand.

Submitted by Prozaco on Wed, 2006-09-06 06:58.

i´d come home. early.

and i´d bring robin finck.

Submitted by Joanna on Wed, 2006-09-06 14:26.

If I had my way, Prozaco would come home early. And move to Wellington.

Submitted by adriancarl on Wed, 2006-09-06 14:23.

I would slap some sense into NZ

Submitted by Joanna on Wed, 2006-09-06 14:26.

My flatmate wouldn't be moving out (anyone looking for a place?) and a new job would fall into my lap.

Submitted by adriancarl on Wed, 2006-09-06 14:42.

Be able to finally convince NZ artists that the only way to become totally successful in the NZ market, is to break the overseas market first, NZ is a nation of sheep. (Have you heard about suchnsuch they are real famous in england... "oh yeah, I've been into them for years")

Submitted by blink on Wed, 2006-09-06 14:50.

// the only way to become totally successful in the NZ market, is to break the overseas market first,

yeah? Thats an weird thing to say. I'd say the bulk of artists succesful in the NZ market have had NO significant overseas success at all. Getting famous overseas first is simply a different route...but not guaranteed to even translate to homeland success at all.

Submitted by adriancarl on Wed, 2006-09-06 15:29.

In the past yes, but you gotta move with the times buddy...
I may have worded it wrong, but what I'm trying to say is that NZ artists are too short sighted, and we need to get a piece of the global pie.
Success in NZ really doesn't mean squat I'm sorry. Sad but True.
And it's entirely possible to stay at home and achieve success.
EG: everytime I hear about Campbell Kneale, he has just come back from doing something interesting, I'm so proud of him.
Another example is Demoniac, how many shows did they play?
HLAH goes on tour with Shihad to Europe, And Mark gets the most interest cos he's in Demoniac.

http://www.nzmusic.com/topic.cfm?i=5184&start=61&1=1&#post247795
Go to surfing USSR's post at the bottom, It's slightly off topic, but it is relevant here too.

Submitted by noizyboy on Wed, 2006-09-06 16:11.

goldenhorse? already big in NZ? now starting to do the biz offshore?

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Submitted by blink on Wed, 2006-09-06 16:40.

// EG: everytime I hear about Campbell Kneale, he has just come back from doing something interesting, I'm so proud of him.

haha. yes, sure...but is he successful in New Zealand? haha, his art students haven't even heard of him. God, there are tons of NZ bands doing great stuff overseas, but getting noticed overseas doesn't (always) translate into homeland sales here, that is the flaw in your post.

Submitted by noizyboy on Wed, 2006-09-06 16:54.

thing is, do you even need local success? should music artists just focus on the offshore markets from the get-go, knowing that with our tiny population, chances are they'll never actually be able sustain themselves locally.

as goldenhorse point out in that post at spareroom, germany has 84 million punters in a country not actually that much bigger than NZ. And next door, France, the UK, Italy...

Submitted by blink on Wed, 2006-09-06 16:59.

I think you need to put in the hard yards here to get your touring/playing live chops down, but yeah, success in NZ is often just a hinderance as you spend so much time trying to capitalise on that homeland success by putting out more records and supporting them that you miss the boat (so to speak) on an international scale. I think bands like Connan and the mockasins, die die die, Shaky Hands etc... have got the right idea. Tour round NZ for 1-2 years, get your shit sorted, find out what songs work, write better songs, then head offshore. All those bands are making serious waves as well.

Submitted by adriancarl on Wed, 2006-09-06 17:09.

I never said it couldn't be done that way, in fact the odds aren't in my favour.
Bailterspace.
Shihad.
etc
I think more bands who get disillusioned would have a better chance of success (survival even) if they licensed their music with creative commons, got up and running on the web and hit every site they can summon in thier mind. post free albums, free content etc, share share share.... I honestly think it would take f-all time wise (comparatively).
Can't afford recording, get a cassette recorder spend an hour or so moving amps around til it sounds alright and record a demo. (This is how they used to record major bands albums, even when they had multitracking). post it on some mp3 site, there is about to be a new NZ MP3 hosting site.
Not only that, but you would have an online history that people could follow.

Submitted by adriancarl on Wed, 2006-09-06 17:13.

//haha. yes, sure...but is he successful in New Zealand?
That is more reflective on his style of music.
//haha, his art students haven't even heard of him.
but those same people probably haven't heard of any bands doing the same style internationally.

Submitted by adriancarl on Wed, 2006-09-06 17:22.

//God, there are tons of NZ bands doing great stuff overseas, but getting noticed overseas doesn't (always) translate into homeland sales here, that is the flaw in your post.

But if you did become successful overseas then used the same methods that got you successful here ... then tacked onto your press release (or what have you) we have also sold 5000 copies in germany, is that going to reflect badly on you? No in fact it will generate more interest.

"Hi Crap TVNZ music show producer, my name is Adrian I represent the "Dirty Toenails" we have played 100 shows in NZ and sold 20 copies of our record we pressed on old milk bottles in Geraldine can we go on your show please... beep... beep... beep... hello?"

or...

"Hi Crap TVNZ music show producer, my name is Adrian I represent the "Dirty Toenails" we have played 100 shows in Europe and sold 2000 copies of our record we pressed on 180gm Vinyl can we go on your show please?"

Submitted by rope on Wed, 2006-09-06 22:10.

with a greeting like that, odds are neither of the letters will produce the desired result

Submitted by adriancarl on Wed, 2006-09-06 22:31.

what about
Dear soul sucking parasite...

Submitted by rope on Wed, 2006-09-06 23:53.

won't fly...

Submitted by dust on Wed, 2006-09-06 18:33.

...I'd be one of these guys everyday. At worst, the guy in the background.

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Submitted by clovenhoof on Wed, 2006-09-06 18:45.

then you'll want to be these kids too then.....
well the lip synching parts anyway....

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Submitted by noizyboy on Wed, 2006-09-06 19:26.

// At worst, the guy in the background.

come work back in the office, and that's just what you'd be. ;)

Submitted by franrose on Thu, 2006-09-07 04:15.

i'm glad I watched that right to the end... the end of the song is the best part of their lip synching