Since I have the ability to do so: I am considering bootlegging live shows and podcasting them to the net.
I'm sort of bootlegging them for my own amusement at the moment, but it occurs to me to make them available as much as I can be arsed.
Wherever possible I would get the permission of the bands before sticking them online.
Basic quality control: if the recording comes out a bit shit, I won't put it online. Sound quality tends to come out okay so far; solid if not spectacular. The bigger the PA, the better :) And my taste is an obvious filter, too, I guess.
But my questions (and please don't answer if you're not Wellington based and gigging, since they are the sample of people who matter at present) are: would people like something like this? Are there any obvious issues I have missed?
The plus side seems to be you get a live show online for free.
The only problem I can see is if people feel this cuts into their proprietary rights or whatever, so I figure this will be more of an underground thing than a band on record labels thing.
So...?
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mate, that sounds awesome. I would ...
mate, that sounds awesome. I would listen to that.
I think getting permission from the band and other interested parties would be key, and I can't imagine them being anything other than encouraging (after all, someone is really just offering to make them a rough live demo of some of their songs...)
I think even local and national bands on labels would probably be amenable, as it's nothing but free advertising for them (a live show without the need for the band! A manager's dream!) And I'm sure some of the regular live sound recordists and mixers around these parts will give you some hints on how to improve your live recording quality, if it needs it at all.
A few things: how long is your average show? what quality will you broadcast? how big will the ensuing filesize be? storage? got one I can listen to?
Length of show depends on the ...
Length of show depends on the band.
Sound quality is at maximum 128kbps mp3. (Just good enough without being spectacular.)
Tends to work out about one meg a minute.
Storage is on my website, which has traffic to burn at present. If it gets out of hand we'll see.
the podcasts page is at
http://www.undulatingungulate.com/blog/?page_id=41
at the moment there are bootlegs of Sigur Ros and No Funeral up, which would probably give some idea.
Although the Sigur Ros one is at 64kbps ...
Although the Sigur Ros one is at 64kbps .wma which is the same technical sound quality but I wanted a smaller file size cos the concert was almost two hours long...
I have 93 mins of HDU at 160kbps, it's ...
I have 93 mins of HDU at 160kbps, it's 105MB. It was recorded through headphones, but some compression and EQing works wonders on bootlegs.
Yeah. I'm not planning to do anything ...
Yeah. I'm not planning to do anything other than dump the raw sounds up, but anyone with a decent stereo should be able to compensate for any shortcomings with the recording. Bootleg is as bootleg does. :)
I reckon it's a winner. The only ...
I reckon it's a winner. The only problem is the one you mentioned, could piss bands off.
Brooklyn Vegan has been doing it for some time now though, and getting away with it. I scored an entire Wilco gig off there recently (and the sound quality was great too!)...
[ http://www.brooklynvegan.com/ ]
Brooklyn Vegan mentioned Phoenix ...
Brooklyn Vegan mentioned Phoenix Foundation in a recent blog, they didn't say it was good, just that was kinda ok but as it was linked to our website it generated a mass influx of traffic. Its a pretty good blog i reckon.
Bootlegging ist rad!
There are a few Wellingtonians who have been doing it for years, there is this one dude who hides mics in his hat and apparently he has litterally thousands of shows on tape.
"ist" rad Devil rider man? is that an ...
"ist" rad Devil rider man? is that an 'is' or and 'isn't'?
um .. ist a german...
um .. ist a german
Sounds good as to me too as long as the ...
Sounds good as to me too as long as the recordings don't make the band sound like shit and you get the bands premission. yeah. my major concern is the quality of sound - but if you get your recordings set up right, its sounds like a winner
[ http://www.monami.co.nz ]
cool idea - we're a band, in ...
cool idea - we're a band, in wellington - currently gigging - ah .. into free advertising .. um .. got a gig on this saturday at bodega room 101 if you're interested....
email me if ya want: dan@oosband.com
[ http://www.myspace.com/oosband ]
Just one more question (and as i'm ...
Just one more question (and as i'm typing this i can't remember whether this was covered in the post or not) - I just went to the site, and the podcasts are download only - Any plans for streaming them from the site as well?
I was just thinking some people (maybe most) would prefer to have a little listen to the recording before downloading it (i know i would anyway, as it was the first thing i was looking for :)
Right. The Podcasts page is a separate ...
Right. The Podcasts page is a separate listing of the files from the original blog post in which they appear. The original blog post has a streaming option as well as download (at least when it works).
I will keep an eye on this, maybe link to the original posts from the podcasts page, rather than the files.
Yeah, sorry, I don't check in to NZM ...
Yeah, sorry, I don't check in to NZM very regularly. If anyone wants to get in touch re: recording, contact me via the Contact link on undulatingungulate.com/blog.
It looks like a new podcast will be up soon, too. Our first local outing.
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