I got this flier today that said something about Falun Gong - "Right now thousands are being tortured and killed in communist China.."
For those that don;t know according to the people that practise it Falun Gong is an ancient spiritual practise consisting of gentle exercises, tranquil meditation and teachings based on the principles of truthfulness, compassion, peace and deepened morals. Apparently the Chinese communist government is slaughtering them. This is why if you are outside the Chinese embassy in wellington you see those dudes meditating and exercising across the road in protest.
Any thoughts on this? I thought that if this Falun Gong is just as they say it is, why not give it up instead of being killed?? Take up Taichi instead. I guarantee it would be better for their health. Why throw your life away. You can still follow those principals without being a practitioner of Falun Gong.
Perhaps it is not about their spiritual practise at all. Perhaps it is a case of them challenging the communist rule. Or perhaps they are in reality an evil cult and deserve to be stamped out. If I had to pick I would go with the former.
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depends on what it means to them - if ...
depends on what it means to them - if it's something they believe in "spiritually" then maybe it's worth more to them than their lives (depends on what value you put on life. some people see it as just a temporary time spent here on earth)
Yeah seen the protests and pretty much ...
Yeah seen the protests and pretty much ignored the progaganda...
Falun Gong certainly are not the "peace loving" group they are portrayed as. Their "leader" has some pretty non-peaceful ideas floating round...
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"despite his insistence on tolerance, some of his views, on homosexuality, for instance, are decidedly unforgiving.
'The disgusting homosexuality shows the dirty abnormal psychology of the gay who has lost his ability of reasoning at the present time.'
In a 1998 talk in Switzerland, Li said gay people would be 'eliminated' by 'the gods'. Asked in Frankfurt, Germany, that year whether gays could practice Falun Gong, Li answered, to a round of applause, 'You can cultivate, but you must give up the bad conduct'."
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"On mixed-race marriage his views are similarly intolerant, as he sees such deviance as evidence of alien interference. Li also regards mixed-race or 'cross-bred' people as rootless and deviant, a sign of morally bankrupt times. Mixed-race people are a plot by the evil extraterrestrials who populate his cosmology, which spills over with accounts of lost civilisations, higher realms and mysteries that science cannot grasp."
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Now I'm not saying that whats happening to them is any way or shape justified or right but they're certainly not the peaceful organisation they proclaim to be.
[quick sources take from - http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A2922644]
[other sources - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_gong]
...oh and all that is BEFORE he starts ...
...oh and all that is BEFORE he starts going on about extraterrestials...
I'd say some segments of Christianity ...
I'd say some segments of Christianity have pretty comparable views on homosexuality.
I'd say Falun Gong can be helpful at a low level of practise, and once you get heavily into it it could become a bit more sordid (again, compare Christianity) - but whether it's a cult or not doesn't mean it should be so ruthlessly persecuted by the Chinese govt. It's definitely not deserving of such a level of it.
Falun Gong is as much a cult as ...
Falun Gong is as much a cult as "scientology". The cunt who started this pretty much mixed buddahism and taichi together and started saying "it's a new religion".
BUT I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH THE WAY CHINESE GOVERMENT HAVE TREATED THE CULTISTS!!! Personally I don't like to defend them tho. Cause a cult is a cult after all...
What do you think makes a cult a cult? ...
What do you think makes a cult a cult? By my rekoning every major religion in the world fits in that box.
from the Wikipedia: "In religion and ...
from the Wikipedia:
"In religion and sociology, a cult is a group of people (often a new religious movement) devoted to beliefs and goals which may be contradictory to those held by the majority of society. Its marginal status may come about either due to its novel belief system or due to idiosyncratic practices that cause the surrounding culture to regard it as far outside the mainstream."
In the census more than half of us ...
In the census more than half of us affilitated themselves with the christian religion - I guess they are not a cult afterall (though if you take each sect on their own they could be considered cults)