Giving Blood

Fuck me. I should now be called ultralightnick, I've been drained to the point of death, all I need is some vampire to fill the gap...

I gave blood today for the first time, it sucked. Felt terrible, almost fainted. I still feel a bit shit. The needle part was ok, just a little sting. But while it was going on I got this terrible gnawing hunger, cold sweets and felt dizzy. The nurses seemed pretty concerned. I don't think I had eaten enough that morning. I don't want to put anyone off, everyone else was really fine, bastards.
I've been keeping pretty fit lately and lost some weight, maybe that has affected my blood sugar levels.

Despite that I will go again. I think it is a good cause. My wife is preganant and I thought about what if my child needed blood? puts things into a different perspective.., but man, I feel wasted and pale.

Can't wait to find out what my blood type is...too much excitment. I think I am some sort of B student. A+ would have been better. At least it won't be a fail (type O) , and if I give blood agiain Ill get this cool keyring with my blood type on it. Wicked. I have this card that says what percentage of people are in each blood type. 47% of people fail.

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9% are 0- (fail)
38% are 0+ (still a fail)
6% are A-
9% are B+
2% are B-
3% are AB+
1% are AB-

If you have type C blood then your a fucking alien. Don't let the americans find you because they will get Will Smith to punch your lights out and pickle you in something...

I think I am going crazy, I need to lie down..

31% are A+

on my card it says A Rh positive - I assume that makes me A+?

I think the RH is something else - It's to do with the Rhesus factor. After a mother gives birth to a child, if their RH is different to their child's then they can become sensitized to it. What this means is for the second birth the mum might have an autoimmune response to their new baby and their body will basically start trying to destroy it.

yeah, your A+, go to the top of the class

Since I was about 14 I always wanted to donate blood, and was going to be happy to lie about my age on the card, but I was always sick whenever the collectors came to school. Then at Uni, I got as far as filling out the forms to discover that I couldn't donate blood, because girls who do boys who do girls have a one year stand-down period, and that made me really fucking angry. I finally donated blood for the first time in 2004, and while the needles were fine, the squeezing was fine and my iron was fine, I was as weak as a kitten afterwards, had to call my mum to come get me and had to take time off work for a couple of days, which makes me really reluctant to donate again in the future. Apparently that's really rare though, so no one else should be put off doing it...

I think they don't like getting blood from girls that do boys that do boys. I wonder why they still let boys or girls that have had anal sex give blood?

Boys who do boys like they're boys apparently have a ten year stand down period.

mcleod syndrome??

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Hahaha, it may be true, if I could actually understand a word of that.

And there I was thinking McLeod's syndrome was just dooming us to be super brainy.

// Boys who do boys like they're boys apparently have a ten year stand down period.

I was told this when I last went to give blood. The woman I spoke to also told me it wasn't about whether or not you'd had anal sex.

Not exactly sure what they were trying to eliminate if that's the case, but am always pretty circumspect about this kind of thing. I think dispassionate use of stats is pretty sweet in this kind of situation, so if they found some statistical justification for it not being worth their while to get blood from guys who'd got it on with other guys, that's fine by me.

//if they found some statistical justification for it not being worth their while to get blood from guys who'd got it on with other guys, that's fine by me.

It makes me a little uneasy, because I don't know what their statistical base for it is. Also, how many people know the full sexual history of all their sexual partners? And I don't get how my blood was worse than someone else's, when I'd only ever had one sexual partner and we'd always practised safer sex, whereas there may well have been many girls who'd had unsafe sex with many people who were free to donate. I mean, all the blood gets screened anyway.

I was at a talk recently that contained probably some valid statistical grounds for the exclusion. I offer no stats or links, however, but it was interesting that (at least overseas), the gap is closing.
Actually, from that talk, they should probably also have a stand-down period for anyone who has been in a relationship while on an overseas holiday...

Actually, at least one stat is swimming back. This is just for HIV, but I think basically 80% of cases in the homosexual community were contracted domestically, but pretty much the inverse in the heterosexual community...

And actually, I have read that more primarily homosexual men are becoming infected with HIV these days, especially young ones who've never known the disease to be a killer since nowadays there's so many drugs to keep people with HIV alive. But again, I have no statistics at hand and I really should do some work instead of finding them. It's just that what seems like a semi-assumption that if you're gay you're obviously dying of AIDS really bugs the hell out of me.

I have no comment to make, other than I was involved in the recent campaign on telly to GIVE BLOOD, and so it's kinda cool to see you fellas talking aboot it. Give until it hurts, people.

Since the beginning of the epidemic to the end of 2004:

Ï Just over half of all HIV cases reported have been among men who have sex with men (MSM) (54.3%)
Ï 10.7% have been male heterosexually-acquired
Ï 11.7% have been female heterosexually-acquired
Ï 2.8% were injecting drug users (IDU)
Ï 1.3% have been mother-to-child
Ï 1.5% were infected through blood transfusions either overseas or in NZ before blood was screened for HIV
(data above supplied by AIDS Epidemiology Group, 2005).

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// Since the beginning of the epidemic to the end of 2004:

Er, that only adds up to 82.3% total

heh.. well that wasjust stats from the aids foundation.

I come from a family of donors, we are mostly Bs and ABs and an interesting mix of Rh negatives and positives....
One family member even had a police escort to get him from a rugby game to the hospital so he could donate... but enough showing off.

advice to the the giver of blood,
Drink a lot the day before..... an extra litre, this is slightly increase your volume, making it less likely to go "shocky"... this is actually more important than eating.
shout yourself a iron/ protein rich meal, will help to bring you back up to speed.... I go for spinach and liver.... the vegie doner gets a bean and spinach curry with lashings of natural yogurt..

Don't let the fainty thing put you off, once you have had it happen once it's not so scary the second time, it doesn't happen every time.. I think I have only gone shocky twice while giving blood.

Good luck with getting a pass mark

many years ago, in a previous life back in NZ, I was a medic in the NZ Navy, I have a few blood stories, but this one sticks in my mind. I was a medic in the sickbay at the navy training base at Tamaki in Devonport. Every year there were three intakes of new raw recurits, all of whom had to give a testtube of blood and get tested for .. if memory serves me correctly, Tuberculosis, you know the thing we're all tested at school, starts off with a small thing pressed into the forearm then a few days later, if needed we get an injection in the bicep ... which leaves a small scar .. anyhow this day I was in the medical room giving these intital forearm" jabs" ( for want of a better word ), which was a small plastic thing just pressed onto the forearm, no broken skin and no blood. In the ward ( room ) next to me was where the bloods were being taken 4 beds at a time and a steady flow of trainees coming in to see me, anyhow there was a lull in the flow, so I popped next door the see what was going on .. nothing as it was, but I did see a young bloke, looking very pale and shakey sitting on a chair in the ward .. ah I thought, you don't like needles, so I immediately went back into my room, went to the cuboard and got the ear syringe out, for those who don't know, it's a large stainless steel syringe used to, well flush the earwax out of your ears, just like a syringe shaped water squirter, no needles. I filled this up with water and placed it next to my medical kit. When this bloke came in slightly shakey and nervous, in a serious manner I asked if he'd had his bloods .. his responce was a slight nod of the head, and a small yes, so again serious I said roll up your sleeve, which he duely started doing, as I turned around and picked up my syringe and turned back to him with it held frimly in my hand ... his shaking got worse, and I think his eyes expanded, I put the syringe to his arm, by which time he'd turned his head away and closed his eyes, I bashed the end of the syringe which sent a shot of water all up his arm and said something like, now I've cleaned the area lets start, dried him off and pressed my little plastic thing to his arm ... not quite the end of story ... five mins later there was a small commotion outside the sickbay, for some unknown reason, this poor chap had fainted, he spent an hour or so on one of our beds in the ward laying on his back with his legs elevated ... then there was the time I ..........................

Does flushing veins with water hurt as much as flushing them with saline? Cos that's so fucking painful. I guess everyone has a medical horror story...

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I was the medical horror story for many of those who came to see me ....