Disclaimer: I've only watched about 2 hours worth of this show, but I usually follow programmes through the ads anyway... also, SPOILER ALERT

Meredith seems like a plot device to act as the 'centre pin' that everything else spins around. Sort of an outdated way of helping viewers make sense of the 'unlikely'(?) goings-on within the narrative. I reckon it's a pretty lazy way to set up a main character - these days we are used to and can handle shows with unorthodox main characters.

While we're here, myshkin, maybe you can help me make sense of one (partial) episode that I saw. I'll pick my words carefully as my friends have informed me in no uncertain terms that Grey's inspires fanaticism. The episode with the bomb - what the HELL was going on? So Grey and that bomb squad guy at least had some form of relationship, however newly-formed. He gets the bomb out of the patient, gets blown to shit as she watches. She can't even shower herself to get the pieces of brain off, yet somehow - and this is what confuses me - later on that night, her married man comes around and all she says to him is "I can't remember the last time we kissed."

No explanation. No other, you know, minor dialogue about how disturbed she is after seeing another human being splattered around and on her. Can you explain?

Ah shit, of course. Sorry. Lucky I put spoiler alert... err hur hur... eep.

But yeah, have a watch of that episode and see if the last 15 minutes make any sense from a Meredith 'character-realism' perspective.

I've watched some of the episodes this series and I liked it well enough, but a) though that pole episode made me cry, it was totally a ripoff of the large concrete block episode from the first series of 3rd Watch, and b) John Safran's Musical Jamboree is back on C4 now, so that must take priority.

Never watched Greys Anatomy. I'm with limegreen on this one. When's Green Wing coming back????

It would be fantastic if they were talking again. Their fight has cast a shadow over the whole show, its just not the gilmore girls anymore - it is more like gilmore girl and gilmore girl and grandma gilmore.

Hey do you think the grandma should included as a 'gilmour girl'? I'm not sure, I guess she is.

I know - when Luke told Rory that he and Lorelai were engaged, I could so feel the hurt that Rory did so well to button up - like her grandmother. Particularly as Rory had made the first move, to go over to Lukes and get things starting again - after she found herself bored in her digs, I just knew we'd see her next in Stars Hollow. And its hurting Lorela, and she's finally making a move as well.

But we do know they'll be talking again, and pretty soon. There is that consolation. Plus, it was funny to see Grandma telling Rory how to behave with her fellow prisoners, and then to see Rory of all people being told her "fight face" was trouble.

// just learnt the other day that she was also the mother in Dirty Dancing.

They had some meta time in the first season with Lorelei going "How can you not have seen that movie Mom? It's brilliant!" about it.

Gilmore girls - They speak WAYYYYYYYY to fast for it to be realistic.

Sure the mum is a milf but god damm you have to be on speed to be able to keep up with their conversations.

They speak too fast? I've never found it too be a problem, and find it to be consistent with my own experiences of speaking with people, particularly those who also watch Gilmore Girls.

// They speak too fast?

I have this pet theory that the average talking speed of the human population is speeding up. As the population is growing smarter from generation to generation, we're better able to comprehend even the fastest of fast talkers. Realising this, tv programmers, music makers and the ad-men are pushing more words-per-minute into their products - as they can get more of their message/lyrics/propaganda across in the same amount of time (or the same in less).

Having a quiet time at home on my own a couple of weeks ago, I managed to watch 3 b-grade sci-fi films in about 2 hours by watching the talking bits at 3x speed, and it was surprisingly easy to keep up with the dialogue. Even if it did sound a little like the Chipmunks v. Predator.

when i first watched an episode of the gilmore girls, i thought exactly what dantheman thought. so i decided to watch it right from the start, episode 1. and i got used to it and it all makes sense now.

i am SOOOOOO happy that luke and lorelei are together, finally. it makes me cry with joy!

i'm glad they're playing new episodes now, re-running the old ones was good because I never saw the rory boat stealing episode, but this series is going to be very interesting.

although at our house we downloaded some episodes of the new series before they started re-runs... which makes me think we might have a gilmore girls addiction problem... we couldn't go a week without seeing an episode.

little britain is genius.

d'oh - of course I'm talking about Boston Legal for anyone who didn't know...

//there can't be much more appeal than James Spader AND William Shatner on the same show!!

OH MY FUCK YES! If it weren't for Fight Club, I'd still be kicking my flatmates' arses to watch that show.

I liked Lost when it first started, but now I kind of hope that they just don't push the button and they all blow up. It frustrates me too much. I don't like TV that makes me think, except for Veronica Mars, which I am going to start a new post about.

the revelations show seemed like it would explain something new but it was just highlights from the season so far. they did manage to show pretty much back to back the woman (rose?) say her husband was in the toilet at the time of the crash then her husband strapped into a chair up in a tree.

I am guilty of watching Veronica Mars. I am working my way through the second season now. Pretty good stuff really.

so you can hook me up with seasons three through five right?

Fo' sho' brother. I have season 3 on DVD and four and five I can give you in divx format. Send me an e-mail, yo.

It has been a while. I assume you have the same e-mail addy. If so, check it yo.