feelers demo's?

Hey, i'm a canadian feelers fan... and i'm just wondering does anyone have the old feelers demo's? Specifically the red and blue tapes? Or can anyone just point me in the right way? I have feelers stuff to offer for trade if you're interested...

Email me at Dimeworth@hotmail.com or add me to msn messenger.

I'd really appreciate any help..

Thanks either way :)

Forums: NZ Music,

If your in to stuff like the feelers you might be interested in this guy called Brian Adams.
I think he is from Canada

Hi, Fuck you to. :)

Oh, look. I can be a smartass as well. I guess it's a talent, huh?

Ayz

Gee sorry if that offends you.
I was trying to help you in a subtle way so I'll be blunt.
Many of us NZers are quite ashamed of our feelers.
I can rememebr in 98 going past a record store in Wellington where the feelers were playing and noone was watching them.
It was the feeleres doing a private gig for the folk who worked in the store.
And they (the staff didnt look happy about it I wouldnt be suprised if they just got the feelers to mind the shop while they went out for a bite to eat to escape the awful embarrasment and humiliation and reminder that you come from the same country that spawned such an awful band.)
Im sure the feelers wouldnt have stolen any cd's while they were gone
The feelers are a made by radio band and the only reason any one listens too them is because they get way more media attention from the media than most other act and that is really speaking volumes because the NZ radio stations love music that sucks.

It is perhaps like me saying brian adams represents good canadian music when the reality is he is crap compared to say godspeed you black emperor and other canadians I havnt heard of and you would expect a grilling for such blasphomy

It is really annoying when you know of how good some NZ acts are and people in other countrys are interested in the poorest band from New Zealand.

I hope you understand

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I'm inclined to agree with you. You can't say a band with high record sales has talent & good music, it IS mostly all media attention & the fact that people are shepp these days, Britney Spears has high record sales, ditto all those Americn boy-bands. They don't have good music, they aren't talented. I have never liked the feelers, but there are worse bands (think True Bliss, Rubicon)

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I admit to taking some interest in the feelers when I first heard "Pressureman" - which I still believe is a decent song. I remember winning the album, "supersystem" in some competition back in '98. I was thoroughly dissapointed - much of that album is fairly post grunge-by-numbers stuff, with a few "okay" songs (ie. the singles) littered around - not really up to the quality of Stereobus, the Clean or Bic Runga. I now believe that the feelers are nothing but a cheap imitation-american rock band - which is why I think a lot of kiddies liked them - because they sounded like the American bands they knew and loved (eg. foo fighters etc) - and they were from NEW ZEALAND!!! Wow, our own home-grown American band! Oh, well - I guess they aren't as bad as Zed (remember them?)

// I first heard "Pressureman" - which I still believe is a decent song.

Yeap. The first song I heard of theirs. They peaked with their first song and the rest was a gradual descent, in my opinion that is.

richard, Ayz can like the feelers if he wants to. Fortunately for him he is detached from any stigmas that have formed about certain bands here in NZ. He can enjoy the music for what it is and the Feelers just happen to suit HIS tastes.

ill be blunt. some people (lots of people, if you look at their album sales) like the feelers. they like them for a reason, and im sure they like them for better reasons than people like some other shit bands.

you are trying to slag this band off as a community, to make it look like a very overwhelming argument...... you are only one person. if you think that the feelers are the worst band in new zealand (what kind of a claim is that anyway) at least back it up with some relevant details, because there's gonna be quite a few people wondering why you think that.

i hope you understand

if you think that the feelers are the worst band in new zealand (what kind of a claim is that anyway)

Urm the claim is that I think the feelers are the worst band that comes from New Zealand that I have ever heard.

no
i wasnt asking what your claim was (i can read). i asked 'what kind of claim is that?' meaning: how can you substantiate such an extreme, almost laughable claim like that?

it's easy to understand... the feelers are a shit band!

jeeeeeez, look. you can think they are, that's cool. you don't know what you're talking about.

i am asking richard why he thinks the feelers are nz's WORST band. you would not know, because this is what you wrote: 'I have never liked the feelers, but there are worse bands'

so you have nothing to offer sorry

i didnt say they were my worst, but i can easily understand that richard & others think they are nzs worst

ok then. tell me, miss understanding, why the feelers are so shit.

no accounting for taste = true
feelers are shit = true
feelers are not shit = true
the rest is utter boring crap = true
message boards usually end up being duels between opinionated boffins who have forgotten the facts = true

true

message boards are often titled in a particular way to bring out peoples opinions = true

some people enjoy opinion duels = true

2 trues make a too true bro

hahaha.

too true for who? i'm never resistant to a healthy dose of reality

Oh, i see you were just trying to help the ignorant canadian from embarrasing himself further. So, i guess that was sort-of-an-apology-but-not? okay, fair enough. I accept either way. :)

As far as the brian adams comparison goes, that's a pretty messed. You're pissed off because a band like the feelers gets more attention, when there's other better nzbands that don't get any.. hence Adams/Godspeed..? That doesn't make much sense at all. The feelers get almost no attention out of new zealand. That's the only place they're world famous as far as i know. I'd never heard of them until my girl (who's a kiwi btw) introduced them to me. So, the brian adams thing was a cheap shot directed towards a canadian, because i'm an outsider who represents you're typical view of typical north-americans. Which i can live with. Just wanted to clear it up. But as far your point about the feelers goes... get over it. It's a fact.. good bands never get the right respect. Wether it be a band like the feelers who does well commercially but apparently sucks dick...(since for some reason no one likes watching them play at record stores, but likes buying their cd's 10 at a time so to boost their record sales and put other nz bands down) or wether it's a band like Godspeed who are incredibly gifted and unique musicians, but get no exposure at all. It's just the way the world turns... good bands never get the spectrum of respect they deserve on whatever level. Your defintion of good being what it may. Anyway.. i sympathize about some of what you said... there's many more nz bands that are very good.. better than most north american bands.. but until there is a nz music qouta on radio in nz, they'll not really have a chance. Our canadian bands are lucky to have that.. that's why a lot of them get good exposure eventually. It's pretty sad that the only bands that will get noticed will be the ones with pop-sensibilties... The only reason i think that sucks is because you don't get a true representation of the spectrum of nz music. It would be just as bad to me if only the hardcore bands made it... and he more mainstream stuff didn't. I think balance is everything.

Anyway, I'm not gonna get into why i think the feelers are one of the better bands in a long time, because i know it would be a lost cause. So i'm just leaving it at that. My opinion matters jack after all.. i like them, and that's all that matters.. to me.

Easy,

I have a quandry. Does anyone think that if Godspeed You Black Emperor had the exposure of most mainstream acts they would be as cherished by their fan base as they are now?

No the Brian Adams comparison might sound perhaps bitchy or petty but when I think about it I think that it is a fairly good and helpfull recomendation to some one who genuinely likes the feelers style of music.

That's if it was meant to be a helpful recomendation, which it wasn't. It was petty and bitchy, and i'm glad you admit it though.

Fact is lot of people always go... "this band doesn't get the respect it deserves".. and then that band goes makes it... and two minutes later the same people are going.. "sell-outs!"... so yeah there'd be some of that with godspeed.. and with every other band that deserves to make it. It's just the sad fact of popularity... most people equate it with lack of passion and originality. How can a band be good if people are consuming it in mass amounts... ? It has to be watered down..

no if's, and's, or but's...

okay, here's the deal.
the feelers are in NO WAY a made for radio / tv / top 50 / whatever band. they are a serious rock / pop band who got the band together by themselves, and have been playing music at various places for a number of years, certainly longer than since their first album "supersystem" was released. they have worked hard to get where they are, and i'm sure deserve any media coverage they get.

besides, media coverage of any kind is usually not free lance, you probably have to talk with the manager, band, and possibly even the record company to get an interview or whatever.

regarding the 1998 gig, it's highly possible that the feelers were just playing a private in store gig... and if the staff didn't like it, that's fine. i think the first gig the feelers ever played was at a pub, and the only people watching were the people working at the pub, and they ended up having more crew there that people watching. the staff @ the shop don't have to like every single band under the sun just because they work at a music shop.

if you don't like the feelers, that's fine too. no-one's saying that you have to like them just because they're a NZ band, or even a band for that matter. that's why music is so diverse. cos not everyone likes the exact same thing.

and while we seem to be on the subject of good canadian music, rather than feelers demo tapes, richard, i suggest you check out a band called 'matthew good band' cos they have made some wicked music.

and if you actually DO like the feelers, check out my site below.

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here's a quote from James Reid - Guitarist, Vocalist & Songwriter for the feelers:

"there are great bands out there that don't even have record companies and we'll never hear them."

think about that one for a bit.

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heres a quote from me

"the feeleres are a piece of shit"

I am convinced.

here's a quote from me

"if you hate the feelers, fine. that's your problem. don't get shitty at people who actually support a band just because you don't. if you hate the feelers, why did you even bother to come to a topic titled 'feelers demo's' ??"

BG

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Because I can.and because I like having oppurtunities to say to as many people as possible that I think the feelers suck.

here's another quote:

"because i can" lol

you're kidding right? What're you... 5 years old? C'mon... go tease the girls on the playground man.

ok richard... if it's at all possible... what bands do you like? i think i'll go round & talk shit bout them on some message boards for a while... 'because i can' - would that make you feel better?

get my point?

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I appreciate that stefan. Thanks for saying that.

no problem. music snobbery can cause blindness in some people, sometimes temporary, sometimes permanent. we need music planning clinics and fast.

lol... right on

I just want to say that My mum likes the feelers.

so?