Ageing - how to stop it?

How the hell od you stop it, you know that point where you look more old than young, the sinking cheeks, the loss of skin density, that....change in appearence. Does it really need to happen?

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Fountain of youth, or fame, well maybe not the music fraternity. But yeah, I think the secret lays in surgery, lighting and air brushing.

Why would you want to stop the aging process? I've never got that, really. The older you get, the better it gets, in my opinion (apart from the bits of your body that get a bit creakier). I've always thought that all those wrinkles and fat tell a greatl story about all the adventures you've had, and all the living you've done. I mean, look at Iggy Pop. He should be dead, but he's not, he's just scrawny and wrinkly as hell. More power to him for getting to this age, I reckon. Thinking about Iggy Pop, I just finished "Wonderland Avenue" the sort of bio of his manager, Daniel Sugerman who gave up drugs, as far as I can tell, when he was in his early twenties after abusing the shit out of them for years. He died early last year at 50. And Iggy Pop just goes on and on and on.......see? Wrinkles means you're alive, and that can't be bad, eh?

wy? because you stop lookeing like you and start looking like something else. I'd rather look like Michael Jackson than look like an awful saggy faced middle aged male. Its not the wrinkles, your whole appearence, face shape changes. It's just grotesque, and embarassing.

Why is it that asians don't age, 30 year old asian guys look like they're 18. I suppose it's their big faces , high heckbones ans small features. Lucky for them, The middle aged caucasion male on the othe hand is the most ugly creature known to exist.

rdor, how was the sex change op

...imagine looking like that in front of your parents. what a mind bender.

or as on my side of the fence, imagine lookingh like that in front of your kids

When asians do go old looking it happens fast and they do go very wrinkly, particularly huge epicanthal folds(sp?). I reckon folk of African origins age best, I was watching something on tv the other day with a 60something Chuck Berry, Dude was looking good for his age.
Try anti wrinkle creams and botox, eat lots of fruit and vegetables, drink a lot of water and avoid stress.

//The middle aged caucasion male on the othe hand is the most ugly creature known to exist.

Gary Oldman is proof that you're just wrong. He looks even better in middle age than he did when he was young.

Oh, and if you drink a ton of water, your skin retains elasticity much better. Hence, no wrinkles and jowls.

I'm not talking about wrinkles and jowls. By that stage it's way too late. No I mean the changes in your skin that begin around 25. The difference between a 20 year olds face and a 30 year olds. That sagging around the eyes, the heavyness around the mouth, fleshy sunken down cheeks and smile lines. The way the skin becomes all soft and yucky feeling. There's got to be a way to stop it

Not sure about stopping it, but copious amounts of cosmetic surgery would make it seem like it hasn't happened.

got any spare stem cells?

//I'm not talking about wrinkles and jowls. By that stage it's way too late. No I mean the changes in your skin that begin around 25

If you really give a shit about your appearance - healthy eating, drink water, exercise. No smoking, moderate-to-no drinking. That's all. If you're just after a magic bullet that doesn't require any work on your part, consult a taxidermist.

//There's got to be a way to stop it

Foetal stem cells. Just because there is no research to support it doesn't mean it won't work!

//Foetal stem cells.

c'mon man, that's a pretty dangerous path to tread. It could potentially lead to the formation of a Legion of Doom made up of such criminal masterminds as Kim Jong Il and David Blaine.

//Not sure about stopping it, but copious amounts of cosmetic surgery would make it seem like it hasn't happened./

your on to something there. I mean all I ahve to do is push the skin up about 1/2 cm around the edges of the eyes/temples and I look exactly like I did at 18. It's tempting to get a stapler and.........

...no, there's got to be something else, and I hear that they wont perform cosmeteiv surgery like that until you're in your 40's.

//That's all. If you're just after a magic bullet//

yes i mean a magic bullet, like collagen injections etc or some magic face cream. Those other things will only make little or no difference.

right...so do you mean that you're already exercising and eating healthy and you're still getting saggy - or that you're not going to bother since "they don't make any difference"?
From previous comments you've made I got the impression that aging is the least of your aesthetic concerns.

I eat well, don't sleep, and only moderately excericise. Although such things may improve skin *condition* they aren't going to lift it up to what is was, cause more skin has grown, and cellulite deposits underneath it. You might just end up looking healthier - a healthier 26/27, rather than 20 again, and there isn't much use to that. But advice noted....

I find it eminently perplexing that you're scared of looking like a healthy 27 year old. Seriously man, if you can't get over time then go find that psychologist, it's the best facelift you'll get.

ofcourse I'm scared that I'm looking older, you know what I mean, and so does anyone, even if you pretend to be all postive , I know you know....

//ofcourse I'm scared that I'm looking older, you know what I mean, and so does anyone, even if you pretend to be all postive , I know you know....

Sure, I'm afraid of looking older. In fact, if I was to draw up a big list of all the things I'm afraid of, looking older is probably right up there in between being hugged by Richard Simmons and being eaten by a giant squid.

Ah, perhaps you're not so scared of getting bad skin, you're just scared that one day you're going to die. Or even worse, one day you'll be a wasted old geriatric. Sure, I don't like the idea that one day I might not be able to see, or walk. One of my reasons for starting at the gym was to increase my chances of remaining in good health for as long as I'm alive. The primary reason I finally (FINALLY) quit smoking was because it made me feel ten years older. But I have very few qualms about my changing appearance. The only concession I could justify making in the name of "staying young" (aside from those that correspond with "staying healthy") is using a moisturiser with a sunscreen.

I know you think you're being all honest and enlightened by hating your aging body and scorning anyone that claims to be content with their ascending decrepitude, but really, why expend any effort at all mourning a foregone conclusion? You think I'm a fool for saying "oh well" and going off to do something infinitely more interesting? Well, I'll gladly be that fool.

If you're worried about how the skin on your face is just grow a beard and never shave it off. A timeless classic.
Another alternative worth considering is to wear extremely tight fluorescent trousers. That way, people won't be too worried about your skin.
Full facial tats also can facilitate people staring at the sidewalk in your company...

I think Heather might be onto something here, rdor. Are you seriously that vain or are you just afraid of dying? Either way, I'm all with the mighty H on this one. See a psychologist, get over yourself, or alternatively have a facelift. You still won't be happy but at least you'll be young looking for all perpetuity.

Bahahaha! The Mighty H! I'm like totally a superhero!

Cheers, Jackie, you made my day.

(Runs to The Warehouse to buy a cape)

(Leaps tall buildings all the way home, resplendent in an unzipped plaid sleeping-bag)

//Sure, I'm afraid of looking older. In fact, if I was to draw up a big list of all the things I'm afraid of, looking older is probably right up there//

but what if you ARE looking older, it's not you anymore. You'll know what that feels like then. Older people appear fundamentally different, it isn't slight, its a major change. For 23/24 years your whole self image has been based on being young, and then your not. Heathers way of dealing with it is with maturity, pretending its not big deal, all very reasonable , but it just a away of getting over (or used to) the depression. Good for her. But some of us more indadequate types don't want to do that, lets be clear, it's isn't dying, it's looking like an older_white_male.

..ah you'll feel it soon enough Joanna (or not if you're lucky), Those small creases around your mouth you noticed at 24, that were no big deal cause you still looked the same, one day you'll wake and see the sides of your face sagging down a bit over them, changing the proportions of your features, so that you look ..different. You'll know then, muahaha etc..

Seriously rdor, I've got more important things to be depressed about. Like, oh, I don't know, maybe depression for starters.

I like watching my boobs get saggier and glassier at certain times of the month, and then change back. It's like John Mayer said - your body is a wonderland. I say, play away!

I couldn't give a rat's arse about my wrinkles, I'm just still glad that my roof is solidly thatched!
And if the ol' hairline is going back, NOW is the time for the clippers. Bzzzzzzzt.

aren't you afraid of people perceving you as older? It means you aren't going ot ever get that 21 year old honey, cause she thinks of you as old. I've always viewed older people as somehow....parental... even those in their late 20's.

// It means you aren't going ot ever get that 21 year old honey

bahahaha. As if. I have a far better chance now than when I was 21!

// I have a far better chance now than when I was 21!

That's what Limegreen loves about those high-school girls - he gets older, they stay the same age.

Man, your parental issues would give freud wet dreams. 95% of my male friends over about 27 - and for that matter quite a few that are under 27 aren't remotely interested in 21-year-old girls. My 40-year-old friend that's actually involved with a 21-year-old (they've been together for just under a year) struggled for about three months to get over the age difference before he even agreed to go out with her. It appears there comes a point that most guys want something more than a girl with a baby's-bottom complexion, even in the most casual romantic flirtation. Mind you, since it's the "maturing" you're rebelling against, I expect that the whole idea of being attracted to hot older women would be yet another bad sign in your peter pan endeavours.

//I expect that the whole idea of being attracted to hot older women would be yet another bad sign

You'd think he'd be ideally situated for the whole hot librarian romance.

Heh, I bet he strenuously avoids the smart ones. I suspect a bunch of boys have gone off the hot librarian thing, ever since they found out just how hairy bizgirl was.

But anyways rdor, according to earlier posts of yours, women aren't in to sex, so what does it matter what you look like as long as you keep on flashing your credit card and keep us in vacuum cleaners? Surely looking older is partly a sign of looking wealthier...

hahaha rdor, just wait until everyone in your group of friends starts getting married & having kids, those nights that would have usually been drinking game all nighters are turned into a few quiets then up early the next morning to take the kids to the beach . . . talk about feeling old hahahaha

( . . . weirdest new years eve ever)

//( . . . weirdest new years eve ever)

My friend and I cleaned a fridge in Buckland's Beach on the Milleniumn night.

Millennium night I did all the normal NYE stuff – got wasted, watched fireworks, got into a fight, got really obnoxious as to guarantee I wouldn’t get laid, you know, good times !! . . . I was younger then though . . .

Hey rdor, has the ‘I can eat anything I want and as much as I want and nothing happens to my guts apart from looking even more ripped’ thing ended yet . . . . hahaha, man that sucks, your pretty face is the last of your worries haha.

//It appears there comes a point that most guys want something more than a girl with a baby's-bottom complexion, even in the most casual romantic flirtation.//

it isn't an abstract thing like a ' flawless complexion' or a 'nice body'. You girls have it easy for ageing, a womens appearence is fundamentally more youthfull looking than a mans, even as they age. beacause they have smaller features and comparitvely larger faces.... the definition of feminine looking is more youthfull and cute. Yeah I've seen plenty of cute looking women in their 30's.

Men, at least us caucasions, age like cheese on toast in the oven. An already somewhat spud-like, characterless face, loses all definition it had as the skin drops towards earth. At least in youth you had that boyish appearence to limit being fugly. What do you base your ego on when your old?, I just don't know how older men continue...

//But anyways rdor, according to earlier posts of yours, women aren't in to sex, so what does it matter what you look like as long as you keep on flashing your credit card and keep us in vacuum cleaners? Surely looking older is partly a sign of looking wealthier... //

yeah thats right, sometimes I see younger women with older men, and that THE reason they are with them, you can just tell. Safe bet. That and maybe some weird father figure thing.

//sometimes I see younger women with older men, and that THE reason they are with them, you can just tell. Safe bet.

Yeah. That extra time to climax really counts to the younger girls.

nah it's cuase he's got money and a good job. They've just picked some guy in a suit, then choose to build a relationship with him, nurse his ego, make him feel good, inspiring loyality in him towards her. A good situation to bring up kids, secure finacially, a pragmatic decision.

// nah it's cuase he's got money and a good job.

nah it's cause he's not insecure and neurotic about his looks.

There's an old theory of self-identity (which I think they still teach to marketing students) which conceives of your self identity as a series of inter-related nodes (e.g., looks, career, hobbies, domestic situation). The fewer nodes you have, and the more importance you put on them, the more vulnerable your self-esteem becomes, because if you have a failure on one node, it compromises a very large part of your self-identity. Thus, I'd suggest diversifying some. I'm not sure what else is good for you in life, but concentrate and expand on that stuff. It may be that I have worse skin than I did when I was 21, but I certainly have better style now than I did then, and just about every other aspect of life has improved since then... including some things that I didn't think would be part of who I am, but have become. So pssh to looks. Go take some initiative on another front.

don't you feel the weight of all those years of adulthood behind you? It fucks with your head, that amount of time at uni... soooooooooo long, anyway there's nothing wrong with being atached to youth, since thats all you've ever known, and esp since older peoples lives seem so nasty. get up, go to work, get home, eat dinner, dishes then bed.

//don't you feel the weight of all those years of adulthood behind you?
I don't think adolescence ends these days until the mid 20s anyway. You seem like you're having your quarter-life crisis a couple of years late...

//It fucks with your head, that amount of time at uni...
I like what my 7 and a bit years of study did to my head ; )
There's a quote that I rather like which goes something like "A University education is not about preparing you for a job, but furnishing your mind so that you have somewhere to live in 20 years".

//older peoples lives seem so nasty. get up, go to work, get home, eat dinner, dishes then bed.
Your life is what you choose to make it...

26 actually. Bah! not 27 yet. But knowing your going to be 27......then 28 ruins the time you have left. It's like the weekend after a 45 hour + work week. Those two days are ruined cause you know you only have 2 days.

//Your life is what you choose to make it...//

that's what you HAVE to do wif you want a steady job. Like the one I started recently, they just expect you to sit there in silence and click on the same icons allllll day, repeating the same steps allllll day. What are you supposed to think while doing this stuff.

//26 actually

26 !!! . . . too late I’m afraid, you’re fucked already, if you had started worrying about this & taking action at 23 you’d have been alright, but 26, mate that clicking icons job had better paid well, you're gonna need it.