Nationalism - is it okay???

I host N.Zealectronica on PulzarFM, and it, like this site, is exclusively focused on New Zealand Music. We've also got NZ Music Month coming up and so I've been thinking about this whole nationalistic approach. Its a bit of a dilemma really. If we heard that some radio stations in America were going to play ONLY US-produced music for a month (so, they proably do anyway, but if they were going to be explicicty exclusive..) we'd all be sickened, I imagine. So what makes us so proud to be so damn patriotic. I have my own ideas, but I'd be interested to hear what anyone else has to say on this topic. The microphone is yours.....

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i just simply belive we're living in paradise...

the best of nature to inspire us...

the fatest pipes to the rest of the world to absorb, explore and enjoy the artistic outputs of the world...

enough distance and headspace to go "yeah love it all... but fuck it... lets make our own magic right here in paradise...

i walk to work in 10 min...

i walk to a park and sit under giant tree ferns in 10min...

i walk for 10 min and sit in front of the biggest movie screen around...

i walk for 10 min sit in bodega and watch the most inspiring heart warming music made by people brave of heart...

i've got no where else i'd rather be...

it's all good...

Damn, dude, that sounds pretty choice. I have to take a subway and 2 buses to get to work (1 hour), it's foggy in the summertime, and the Pacific is butt cold!

Anyway, IMO, you Kiwis need to feel proud about the music coming out of such a sparsely populated country. I would say that per capita, NZ produces more awesome music than anywhere else in the world, and like a national park (no, seriously), it needs to be preserved and protected, or otherwise will suffer a tragic demise, wiped out by the corporate juggernaut of the US. Maybe not right away, but over time it will become diluted, and brought down to the lowest common denominator, that being whatever music has the most money behind it will ultimately prevail. It's a sad predicament that afflicts many countries in different ways, I would guess. I know France has strict rules on letting "franglais" enter their speech, and Canada also has Canadian-created music quotas for radio airplay. It may sound stupid, and seem kinda lame after the 4th Celine Dion song in a row, but in the big picture, I think it is a vital measure to preserve a part of one's national identity, and not be laid to waste by the US music industry. Just my thoughts, I guess.

I reckon that we (NZ) because of our physical and population size, and our remote location, have a tendancy to look outwards for gratification and use this as a benchmark for what we are doing, this can be both good and bad.
Examples of this can be seen in NZ music, some are blatant ripoffs of overseas "styles" showing an insecurity all to common in our country, some use this as a reality check and produce some truley inspiring music reflective of all that is good in NZ.

When you consider that average large city has the equivilant population to the whole of New Zealand I think we should have bit of internal promotion.

We shouldn't be too worried about "nationalism", even for one week, if we're gonna take our music to the world it needs a strong base in the country where its made, how can the artists develop if they don't get heard.well thats my 2 cents

i think NZ music month is actually a pretty good idea, it gives an oppurtunity for the many NZ bands to be heard, and if people like their music, they get to achieve more than they expect, and they might get the chance to go overseas and release their music like shihad and zed. We should be proud of NZ music and there's no reason why we shouldn't help out our bands

hey thats a great idea because were all sort of getting sick of kiwi main stream music be good to hear new stuff, eh!!!

Wicked stuff, pleased to get some great replies. I'd have to agree with Chris and Mingo, that the exclusive nature of sites like this, un-chart-ed, my radio show, NZ music week etc. is justified as a form of self defense against the cultural imperialism that is propogated in America and pertpetuated by the mainstream media here. In fact I'd have to point the finger closer to home, at programme directors in the New Zealand media, for allowing the floodgates of mass-produced foreign culture to infiltrate and dilute our own. That said, I am really stoked to feel like I'm part of a huge wave of proud kiwis, a new young culture of immense creative power that is just exploding all over the place. Is Aotearoa coming of age, leaving the awkward teenage years behind?

yeah!!!

sure is mate...

a creative paradise...

just remember to look to those around you and younger than yourself...

our culture is evolving at a horrendous rate and a lot of people who still control the media in old school ways are quickly losing their grasp and relevance...

yeah!!!

well, having been involved in one way of other in the music scene in wellington since i was fifteen, you could say kiwi music is in my blood.... now i find myself in the mid-lands of england, its raining out, and my body thinks its supposed to be summer. but c. fu can still bring a huge grin to my face no matter how shit it is outside.... aotearoa music is the bomb. shame not to have to endure another spice-girl-gone-solo single for all that time, but hey, you cant have it all. to me the prospect of a whole month of n.z. music is so appealing, i cant really draw my attention to any possible nationalistic connotations. it all seems somehow insignificant.

(cant wait till someone sends me over the trinity roots ep... then my grin will be even bigger).

I don't think you could make a NZer love kiwi music just by touting a nationalistic approach. Considering how self critical we tend to be (especially compared to the US) the fact that we can stand up and go "NZ MUSIC ROCKS" is amazing.
NZers can appreciate great music and can recognise what a feat it is that so much of it comes out of our tiny country. Thats what makes us so goddamn proud!!

PS - I am currently living in Australia (but I'm coming back soon!) and you should hear some of the crap bands that make it over here. Not a patch on ours....

Being from England, I can offer some thoughts from an "outsider". I personally think you should be proud of the wonderful music coming from your country and you are completely justified in in your NZ month.
Personally I wish one of the British radio stations would do the same (a New Zealand month that is) instead of playing the same old rubbish by the same old rubbish bands all the time.

go baby go!

i agree with most of the stuff thats been said here.... apart from one thing: "some (bands) are blatant ripoffs of overseas "styles" showing an insecurity all to common in our country". well i think music styles are global and compartmentalising ourselves into restricted genres because we dont want to 'be like overseas styles' is narrow minded. just because a band is of a style prevalent in overseas industries, doesnt mean theyre any less deserving of our respect for making it to where they are. of course you can dislike certain sorts of music, thats human nature, but knocking quality nz bands cos they sound like they arent from here is pathetic.