The L Word

Caught this for the first time a few nights back. Entertaining in a sort of mindless way, but as with most American cutting-edge drama series, realism doesn't seem to be that great a concern among the show's writers.

Are lesbians ever really that drop-dead gorgeous? Seriously, there was not one butch among them. But then, who would want to watch stocky ladies with stubble and crew-cuts get it on? I understand the producers feel that have to appeal across sexual orientations - I know I'd rather ogle Mia Kirschner any day...

Still, any thoughts?

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// Are lesbians ever really that drop-dead gorgeous?

well, there were those cheerleaders, but now they're denying there were 'any sexual relations'...

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Letterman had a great skit on that last night ... anyone see it. made me guffaw.

Hahaha, nice story, I like the comments about how they hadn't been charged with "indecency"...
Given they cared enough about their privacy to take it into a toilet, I bet this wee statement:
"It was clearly visible that they were involved in sexual activity in the stalls of one of the bathrooms at this bar."
translates to:
"After climbing on a toilet seat in order to peer over the cubicle wall..".

nail on head there SoldierBoy - all very pretty and mindless ...

i watched the first one with great interest, but it just seemed to be based on very simple archetypes - conceiving baby, the straight girl crossing over and getting confused and angry (man has that storyline just collapsed into crocodile tears and tantrums), the very boy-ish woman (Shane, who's my favourite, if i was forced to choose at gunpoint) ...

i realised the writers/producers maybe weren't targetting a queer audience - it seems to be aimed at a straight audience, everything is so simplistic, archetypal, unsurprising.

but first series, perhaps in subsequent manifestations it might develop into the queer Sopranos. i mean, even Will & Grace i thought was more challenging/witty/surprising, and i don't like Will & Grace as a rule.

//there was not one butch among them

actually, Shane's butch. just not in a dungarees-wearing way.

At the risk of offending some people, I'm sure there are gorgeous-looking lesbians.

But I don't know if any clique of queer women would be as uniformly stunning as those on the L word.

well, y'know, what someone does with their bits has no relation to the appearance of their outsideness.
i think it's just one of those things - hollywood/tv industry version of people.
Desperate Housewives - all that 'beauty' in one street? hollywood/tv version of people.

don't suppose we can expect real-life storylines and real-life beauty in tv programmes - mostly people look all uber-tv, rather than like someone yummy you'd see on the street. sorry for the underwhelming statement of obviousness, heh!

cleanie - you no doubt realise this but Desperate Housewives is a perfect example of a programme portraying unlikely standards of beauty with tongue firmly in cheek...

i have to say i've never watched it - just seen the shorts and thought that it was all about titillation and sad-arsed WASPS in gated communities.

/I don't know if any clique of queer women would be as uniformly stunning as those on the L word.

Representative, perhaps not. But are you looking to the american sitcom for representative anything, other than how culture is routinely served to the tv mainstream in luke-warm, processed, chicken-flavoured nibblets?

someone tell me what WASP means?

White Anglo-Saxon Protestant

ah. thanks.

//Representative, perhaps not. But are you looking to the american sitcom for representative anything, other than how culture is routinely served to the tv mainstream in luke-warm, processed, chicken-flavoured nibblets?

(I've just read this reply) Well, no - but it was interesting to see how a show purporting to examine an "alternative" lifestyle takes a rather mainstream approach in doing it - i.e. hiring starlets to play the lead roles...

i love it. the nick cave song that they played at the end of the most recent episode was perfect.

It was a waste if you ask me. Into My Arms is one of the greatest love songs of all time. The album it comes from, The Boatman's Call, aint too bad either.

I hear that lesbians don't shave their armpits

The only people I know who watch it regularly are straight males who watch it for the hawt lesbo action.

hehehe

i like it. sometimes its hot. yeah its mindless and not true to life, but so is everything else on tv at the moment.