Well thats most useless pre-release I've ever read - I hope nobody got paid for writing that because it provides absolutley no information and gives the impression that local artists are going to be relegated to some stage made out of beer crates...
I thought the people running this were professionals (I'm actually disgusted)
its just the publicity machines in motion- its better than the one they sent out where they threatened us with an influx of Australians if we didn't hurry up and buy tickets.. at least this one shows Cambell Smith + Theresa Patterson to have a sense of humour...
i reckon. that wasted a good few minutes of my life. sorry to be mean.. but honestly. just the angst of wanting to know what the hell is going on with BDO is getting to me I think.
//just the angst of wanting to know what the hell is going on with BDO is getting to me I think.
Well I had my hands cut off in a frenzied machete attack, but you don't hear me bitching about the fine art of amusing press releases that never claim to be anything more than they are, do you? No. So suck it up and be a man.
I am disgusted too, Scott. That stage could be far from being OSH compliant if that guy really has built it out of beercrates. Big Day Out could be putting some NZ artists in real danger with their cavalier attitude to the whole event. The sooner these guys get serious and get someone from Readymix down there to build a sensible concrete platform for bands to play on, the better.
Samkraps, are you mental?? Bands can't play on concrete, that would sound fucked up and they might hurt themselves too when they do some cool jumping thing like I saw James Hetfield doing on C4 the other night.
I think the stage should be made tru skool styles, out of vinyl and like, wood.
A trampoline would be even more appropriate for the kind of thing you are talking about there, Head! Maybe we should start a petition to get that guy Campbell to make it out of canvas and springs rather than beercrates. do you still get credit on beercrates when you take them back to the bottlestore these days? he sounds like he needs some money if he is having to build this stage himself rather than getting professionals to do the job.
//Well I had my hands cut off in a frenzied machete attack, but you don't hear me bitching about the fine art of amusing press releases that never claim to be anything more than they are, do you? No. So suck it up and be a man. //
oooo-eeee defensive. unfortunately for you i'm allowed to bitch so you can just suck it *off*, oh my god heaven forbid anyone say something even slightly derogatory in this forum, lest the bitch-fairy forumhags start laying into you.
thru these comments, i can see that the BDO really means a lot to people. It's like a mecca, a pilgrimage or something.
Is there a consensus on whether or not it has been getting better over the years?
well its always better the younger you are... i would've loved the lineup this year if i was 16 i'm sure... now it just makes me want to lie down and take a nap. Maybe the second announcement will be better.
And Theresa was also kind enough to mail out the release by putting all the recipients in the To: field, as opposed to the BCC: field, so now I (as well as everyone else remotely involved in the NZ music scene) have a copy of her entire hundreds-strong mailing list. Mwahaha.
// This is the first time a stage has been exclusively dedicated to New Zealand acts
wasn't that what the "essential" stage used to be? Shit, its been so long I've forgotten what The essential stage was, but I seem to remember it was small and had lots of kiwi bands play on it...
//but they're happy to consign the NZ artists to the shittest sounding, crappest spot f the BDO?
Exactley my point - you think they'd be promoting a stage for NZ artists as opposed to implying that it's something thats been thrown together from junk. Not too mention it also implies that NZ artists should be kept seperate for the 'main acts'.
//FREAKING OUT about the safety issues implicit in this stage made of old junk!
I don't actually think it will be that small, nor made of beer crates, dude. It might be on the back of a truck or something, though.
Thanks Eddie. I am feeling better already. Will this be a Boost Mobile Stage that is actually mobile then? Bands cruising (not in a gay way) round the Big Day Out on the back of a truck would be kind of cool.
the essential stage really was a shitty stage back in the day - on a concrete concourse underneath the main stand. the concrete was abot the only appealing thing about it altho king loser were on fire there one year though. particularly celia's hotpants. i would love to see that band play again.
Yeah I am full on for the MOBILE Nz music stage.. like a stage on the back of a massive truck.. that way NZ artists can move to where the largest crowds are and play loudly at them until they are forced to listen...
On a more serious note, they should have a tent similar to the carling tent at the Reading festival, a tent that promotes up comings acts and bands tipped to be next years big thing.. not just homegrown talent but not yet famous talent worldwide.. for example The D4 and The Datsuns payed that stage years ago and then 2 years back the Datsuns rock the mainstage with a crowd numbering 200 000 odd.. all bands need a kick start, a helping hand etc... Agreed Big NZ nmes should be in with big rest of the world names, but apart from that I LIKE the idea of a smaller stage for up and coming names and indie acts (unfortunaltey I fear it will still be a stage dominated by Hippidy hopp music)
hey, isn't that jsut about exactly what that press release thing at the very top of this page said? Now I am REALLY confused about what everyone is on about here. Heather's right. Hands up who's on crack today Scott! But I am picking up on this reading tent thing and i like it. brooke fraser could be in it. she does those library ads on tv. i bet the d4 only read comics and porn mags but we could have some of those in there for when brooke is not around.
/Now I am REALLY confused about what everyone is on about here. Heather's right. Hands up who's on crack today Scott!
Nope I left my crack at home today :-)
Basically it all came about cause I organise a gig guide for people at work, and email round when gigs are, updates on touring acts coming to town, advising of good local bands - that sort of stuff. So I emailed the press release round this morning and most of the responses I got from people were - WTF is this? Most people assumed from the release that all NZ bands would be playing on this new stage, and a number of them indictated they got the impression this new stage would be small and hobbeled together. Now the people I work with aren't musicians (well there are a couple) but they're definatley intelligent - hence my call that this was a crap (and misleading) press-release! It's kind of funny, but theres no distinction between what is supposed to be amusing and what is supposed to be factual (you know press-releases are supposed to inform and advise usually)...
So thats where I was coming from - no crack involved (unless you count the crack I'm sitting on)
Scott, usually you and i are on Exactly The Same Wavelength, but you - or your workmates - have lost me here. Doesn't that guy Campbell Smith say in his post at the very top that NZ bands are playing on other stages at the Big Day Out - the Frontlines, for instance, who he mentions? Maybe he should come back and post again to clear things up once and for all. As for your workmates, i'm worried about the contents of the watercooler. Not freaking out yet, but seriously worried. I can't wait for the Stooges.
//Doesn't that guy Campbell Smith say in his post at the very top that NZ bands are playing on other stages at the Big Day Out - the Frontlines, for instance, who he mentions?
Not that I can see - he does mention the frontlines (whom I wouldn't know from a bar of soap) but theres no mention of what stage they are 'headlining' (which is usually an indication on when an artist is playing and not where) and as all the rest of the release is talking about the new stage - it really does read like they're headlining the new stage.
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Well thats most useless pre-release ...
Well thats most useless pre-release I've ever read - I hope nobody got paid for writing that because it provides absolutley no information and gives the impression that local artists are going to be relegated to some stage made out of beer crates...
I thought the people running this were professionals (I'm actually disgusted)
'pre-release' = press release...
'pre-release' = press release
its just the publicity machines in ...
its just the publicity machines in motion- its better than the one they sent out where they threatened us with an influx of Australians if we didn't hurry up and buy tickets.. at least this one shows Cambell Smith + Theresa Patterson to have a sense of humour...
// at least this one shows Cambell ...
// at least this one shows Cambell Smith + Theresa Patterson to have a sense of humour...
Reckon. I think it's funny. Any press release that mentions cabbages is ok by me.
i reckon. that wasted a good few ...
i reckon. that wasted a good few minutes of my life. sorry to be mean.. but honestly. just the angst of wanting to know what the hell is going on with BDO is getting to me I think.
//just the angst of wanting to know ...
//just the angst of wanting to know what the hell is going on with BDO is getting to me I think.
Well I had my hands cut off in a frenzied machete attack, but you don't hear me bitching about the fine art of amusing press releases that never claim to be anything more than they are, do you? No. So suck it up and be a man.
hahahaha still makes me laugh SO ...
hahahaha
still makes me laugh SO MUCH
I am disgusted too, Scott. That stage ...
I am disgusted too, Scott. That stage could be far from being OSH compliant if that guy really has built it out of beercrates. Big Day Out could be putting some NZ artists in real danger with their cavalier attitude to the whole event. The sooner these guys get serious and get someone from Readymix down there to build a sensible concrete platform for bands to play on, the better.
Samkraps, are you mental?? Bands can't ...
Samkraps, are you mental?? Bands can't play on concrete, that would sound fucked up and they might hurt themselves too when they do some cool jumping thing like I saw James Hetfield doing on C4 the other night.
I think the stage should be made tru skool styles, out of vinyl and like, wood.
Maybe Tim Shadbolt could turn up with ...
Maybe Tim Shadbolt could turn up with his concrete mixer and lend Campbell a hand.
A trampoline would be even more ...
A trampoline would be even more appropriate for the kind of thing you are talking about there, Head! Maybe we should start a petition to get that guy Campbell to make it out of canvas and springs rather than beercrates. do you still get credit on beercrates when you take them back to the bottlestore these days? he sounds like he needs some money if he is having to build this stage himself rather than getting professionals to do the job.
Samkrpas I think that's a bit of a ...
Samkrpas I think that's a bit of a silly suggestion, how could a drummer play (or even set up their gear) on a stage made of a trampoline??
More appropriate I think is someone's back-of-a-truck suggestion. As long as the handbrake is on. And maybe leave it in gear, just in case.
I recall a stage on the back of a truck ...
I recall a stage on the back of a truck many years ago... The Hasslehoff Experiment played on it beside the supertop.
// how could a drummer play (or even ...
// how could a drummer play (or even set up their gear) on a stage made of a trampoline??
Strip their kit back to just a pair of cymbals, and get some hott chicks to jump up and down with casstenets and tambourines as well. Simple.
//Well I had my hands cut off in a ...
//Well I had my hands cut off in a frenzied machete attack, but you don't hear me bitching about the fine art of amusing press releases that never claim to be anything more than they are, do you? No. So suck it up and be a man. //
oooo-eeee defensive. unfortunately for you i'm allowed to bitch so you can just suck it *off*, oh my god heaven forbid anyone say something even slightly derogatory in this forum, lest the bitch-fairy forumhags start laying into you.
//oh my god heaven forbid anyone say ...
//oh my god heaven forbid anyone say something even slightly derogatory in this forum, lest the bitch-fairy forumhags start laying into you.
Welcome to the NZM, bitch.
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//Welcome to the NZM, bitch. ...
//Welcome to the NZM, bitch. //
awesome, i love this place
thru these comments, i can see that the ...
thru these comments, i can see that the BDO really means a lot to people. It's like a mecca, a pilgrimage or something.
Is there a consensus on whether or not it has been getting better over the years?
well its always better the younger you ...
well its always better the younger you are... i would've loved the lineup this year if i was 16 i'm sure... now it just makes me want to lie down and take a nap. Maybe the second announcement will be better.
i think thats the BEST press release i ...
i think thats the BEST press release i have ever read.
I agree. And Theresa was also kind ...
I agree.
And Theresa was also kind enough to mail out the release by putting all the recipients in the To: field, as opposed to the BCC: field, so now I (as well as everyone else remotely involved in the NZ music scene) have a copy of her entire hundreds-strong mailing list. Mwahaha.
man, she did too.... they must be on ...
man, she did too.... they must be on drugs or somethin..
I think this announcement is cool... ...
I think this announcement is cool... and slightly informative.. only slightly
but funny..
hey noizy.. wanna forward me the list.. I need to do more canvasing and harrasing for my all ages thing
yeah spam canwest, take down the edge ...
yeah spam canwest, take down the edge and more Fm and radioLive.. send bugs.. bad ones like..
So.. more local talent huh. Any ...
So.. more local talent huh. Any requests??
haha... "We’re not consigning ...
haha...
"We’re not consigning hip-hop to one corner of the Big Day Out and this is enabling us to get the mix just right on every stage throughout the day,”
but they're happy to consign the NZ artists to the shittest sounding, crappest spot f the BDO?
// This is the first time a stage has ...
// This is the first time a stage has been exclusively dedicated to New Zealand acts
wasn't that what the "essential" stage used to be? Shit, its been so long I've forgotten what The essential stage was, but I seem to remember it was small and had lots of kiwi bands play on it...
//but they're happy to consign the NZ ...
//but they're happy to consign the NZ artists to the shittest sounding, crappest spot f the BDO?
Exactley my point - you think they'd be promoting a stage for NZ artists as opposed to implying that it's something thats been thrown together from junk. Not too mention it also implies that NZ artists should be kept seperate for the 'main acts'.
Esactly. You are right again, Scott. i ...
Esactly. You are right again, Scott. i am now completely FREAKING OUT about the safety issues implicit in this stage made of old junk!
//FREAKING OUT about the safety issues ...
//FREAKING OUT about the safety issues implicit in this stage made of old junk!
I don't actually think it will be that small, nor made of beer crates, dude. It might be on the back of a truck or something, though.
Thanks Eddie. I am feeling better ...
Thanks Eddie. I am feeling better already. Will this be a Boost Mobile Stage that is actually mobile then? Bands cruising (not in a gay way) round the Big Day Out on the back of a truck would be kind of cool.
Samkrasp - dude I'm hoping you are ...
Samkrasp - dude I'm hoping you are just being tounge in cheek! I don't think anyone expects the stage to actually be 'made of old beer crates'... :-)
Man, this discussion has gotten ...
Man, this discussion has gotten weird...I can't tell who's being serious, sarcastic or meta-sarcastic any more...
the essential stage really was a shitty ...
the essential stage really was a shitty stage back in the day - on a concrete concourse underneath the main stand. the concrete was abot the only appealing thing about it altho king loser were on fire there one year though. particularly celia's hotpants. i would love to see that band play again.
// ...who's being serious, sarcastic ...
// ...who's being serious, sarcastic or meta-sarcastic...
meta-sarcasm! there's a term that needs to be used in day-to-day conversation more often.
Are Spinal Tap and the Darkness both ...
Are Spinal Tap and the Darkness both metal-sarcasm as well then, as opposed to seriously heavy metal?
where is dantheman when you need an ...
where is dantheman when you need an opinion on metal sarcasm?
//where is dantheman when you need an ...
//where is dantheman when you need an opinion on metal sarcasm?
<3. When Dan starts making fun of himself, that's when things get real meta...
Hey Noizyboy, are you entering the ...
Hey Noizyboy, are you entering the street ball competition this year? It looks as if they've lost the entry fee.
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// are you entering the street ball ...
// are you entering the street ball competition this year?
man, haven't played for years.
but, yeah, if anyone in welly is keen to get a team together, I'd be a starter.
we need three more. anyone with some basketball skills up for it?
oh, and it's like, tomorrow?...
oh, and it's like, tomorrow?
Yeah I am full on for the MOBILE Nz ...
Yeah I am full on for the MOBILE Nz music stage.. like a stage on the back of a massive truck.. that way NZ artists can move to where the largest crowds are and play loudly at them until they are forced to listen...
On a more serious note, they should have a tent similar to the carling tent at the Reading festival, a tent that promotes up comings acts and bands tipped to be next years big thing.. not just homegrown talent but not yet famous talent worldwide.. for example The D4 and The Datsuns payed that stage years ago and then 2 years back the Datsuns rock the mainstage with a crowd numbering 200 000 odd.. all bands need a kick start, a helping hand etc... Agreed Big NZ nmes should be in with big rest of the world names, but apart from that I LIKE the idea of a smaller stage for up and coming names and indie acts (unfortunaltey I fear it will still be a stage dominated by Hippidy hopp music)
hey, isn't that jsut about exactly ...
hey, isn't that jsut about exactly what that press release thing at the very top of this page said? Now I am REALLY confused about what everyone is on about here. Heather's right. Hands up who's on crack today Scott! But I am picking up on this reading tent thing and i like it. brooke fraser could be in it. she does those library ads on tv. i bet the d4 only read comics and porn mags but we could have some of those in there for when brooke is not around.
/Now I am REALLY confused about what ...
/Now I am REALLY confused about what everyone is on about here. Heather's right. Hands up who's on crack today Scott!
Nope I left my crack at home today :-)
Basically it all came about cause I organise a gig guide for people at work, and email round when gigs are, updates on touring acts coming to town, advising of good local bands - that sort of stuff. So I emailed the press release round this morning and most of the responses I got from people were - WTF is this? Most people assumed from the release that all NZ bands would be playing on this new stage, and a number of them indictated they got the impression this new stage would be small and hobbeled together. Now the people I work with aren't musicians (well there are a couple) but they're definatley intelligent - hence my call that this was a crap (and misleading) press-release! It's kind of funny, but theres no distinction between what is supposed to be amusing and what is supposed to be factual (you know press-releases are supposed to inform and advise usually)...
So thats where I was coming from - no crack involved (unless you count the crack I'm sitting on)
samkrasp has been sent to sow confusion ...
samkrasp has been sent to sow confusion amongst the populace.
imho.
I think the populous are doing quite ...
I think the populous are doing quite well at being confused on their own!
Sorry... I'm confused. Pardon?...
Sorry... I'm confused.
Pardon?
[Gawd any level of speeeeling I had ...
[Gawd any level of speeeeling I had seems to have been left at home with my CRACK!]
Scott, usually you and i are on Exactly ...
Scott, usually you and i are on Exactly The Same Wavelength, but you - or your workmates - have lost me here. Doesn't that guy Campbell Smith say in his post at the very top that NZ bands are playing on other stages at the Big Day Out - the Frontlines, for instance, who he mentions? Maybe he should come back and post again to clear things up once and for all. As for your workmates, i'm worried about the contents of the watercooler. Not freaking out yet, but seriously worried. I can't wait for the Stooges.
//Doesn't that guy Campbell Smith say ...
//Doesn't that guy Campbell Smith say in his post at the very top that NZ bands are playing on other stages at the Big Day Out - the Frontlines, for instance, who he mentions?
Not that I can see - he does mention the frontlines (whom I wouldn't know from a bar of soap) but theres no mention of what stage they are 'headlining' (which is usually an indication on when an artist is playing and not where) and as all the rest of the release is talking about the new stage - it really does read like they're headlining the new stage.