some service station in mot set the price wrong for the gas. people filled up and payed the price that had been set.
the news seems to report this as illegal and keep going on about the owner handing the receipts over to the police.
can someone explain what is illegal about this? thanks.


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"... theft or using a document to ...
"... theft or using a document to obtain a pecuniary advantage..."
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is it theft? what document is being ...
is it theft?
what document is being used?
eft-pos card...
eft-pos card
yeah, I wouldn't be too worried if ...
yeah, I wouldn't be too worried if they're mainly targeting people like:
//"In some cases, there has been a transaction of 30 or 40 litres of fuel and a short time later 100 litres of fuel to that same Eftpos card.
...Not to mention that if I was the guy in charge, looking at perhaps an $8,000 error - I'd sure be playing up the threats as well. That said, having the mistake go unnoticed for one night may be unfortunate, but two nights is pretty shabby.
This has happened in atm machines also, ...
This has happened in atm machines also, in the ANZ a lady who was new at filling the machine up accidentally put the $20 in the $10 slots, the rest you can work out for yourself. Needless to say mistakes will happen and the money was all recovered and paid back and/or withdrawn from the peoples accounts...
so i break the law any time someone ...
so i break the law any time someone charges me the wrong price or scans a barcode that has been set up wrong?
man im badass.
// so i break the law any time someone ...
// so i break the law any time someone charges me the
// wrong price or scans a barcode that has been set up wrong?
only if you go back and buy 10 more, knowing that the price was wrong.
So is this one of these wishy washy ...
So is this one of these wishy washy laws where if you could be 'reasonably expected' to realise that a price was wrong, you done bad?
Acouple of years ago the tax on tobacco ...
Acouple of years ago the tax on tobacco went up, my local was still selling them at the old price, a difference of close to $3, I told them once, was told old stock, told them twice explaining that tax increases were instant, the 3rd time, I thought stuff it and bought enough tobacco to last a month.
Just a month? What a bad ass....
Just a month? What a bad ass.
//So is this one of these wishy washy ...
//So is this one of these wishy washy laws where if you could be 'reasonably expected' to realise that a price was wrong, you done bad?
Another possibility is that the "sale" hasn't been deemed to be done until the shopkeeper has assented. Typically, a price tag is known as an "invitation to treat" or something to that effect. So if you take it up to the counter and they say "Sorry, that price is an error", they don't have to honour the low price. If you view the price on the pump only as an invitation to treat, then perhaps this is a case of the owner doing that, but in this case, doing so after the transaction appears to be completed. It'd be interesting to know if there is much precedent on this.
looking at consumer, there are 2 ...
looking at consumer, there are 2 possibilities
1. As outlined above, although you've paid for it, that the contract hasn't been entered into until the garage owner becomes involved
OR most damningly
2. If you know the price was a mistake and took advantage of it anyway, a court can make you pay full price under the Contractual Mistakes Act.
The latter makes me suspect that if it had been 10c cheap, they'd have little grounds, but the petrol was so cheap, you'd have to know that it was a mistake.
//The latter makes me suspect that if ...
//The latter makes me suspect that if it had been 10c cheap, they'd have little grounds, but the petrol was so cheap, you'd have to know that it was a mistake.
if u were taking notice or cared. but hypothetically there is a possibility that one or two
a) weren't ripping off the system
b) didn't secure any significant advantage
and in all likelihood they will be required to cover costs, ( be it a phone call or a quick ride to local constabulary) incurred by a service station's error. go new zealand consumers!
//if it had been 10c cheap, they'd ...
//if it had been 10c cheap, they'd have little grounds, but the petrol was so cheap, you'd have to know that it was a mistake.
How cheap is cheap enough? That's exactly what I'm getting at - is it just a judge's discretion as to whether you should know it was 'too' cheap?
Interesting stuff though. I've been told in the past that if someone like Bond & Bond print a price in their catalogue they're legally bound to honour that price. But the fact they always have apologies sitting on the front counter and it was a lecturer who told me (they don't live in the real world ;) ) makes me think this can't be true.
//How cheap is cheap enough? That's ...
//How cheap is cheap enough? That's exactly what I'm getting at - is it just a judge's discretion as to whether you should know it was 'too' cheap?
Probably a judge's call. But in the case of petrol, the price is very standard, and when petrol does go on sale, it's usually a 5-10c discount per L, so I'd say anything more than 10% is probably too cheap.
// I've been told in the past that if someone like Bond & Bond print a price in their catalogue they're legally bound to honour that price. But the fact they always have apologies sitting on the front counter and it was a lecturer who told me (they don't live in the real world ;) ) makes me think this can't be true.
As long as it's not a regular thing, and it can be shown to be a genuine mistake, they don't have to honour it. Was this a commerce lecturer telling you this perchance?
ha ha... no......
ha ha... no...
dirty old mot....
dirty old mot.
I looked at it from the view that it ...
I looked at it from the view that it was false advertising. I thought they would be obligated to sell at the 'advertised' price.
see Limegreen's post above re: ...
see Limegreen's post above re: Contractual Mistakes Act
i have a new question. what is a munus? ...
i have a new question. what is a munus? (that might not be spelt right).
does no one know? here is a sample ...
does no one know? here is a sample converstaion for some context:
"you're a munus"
"no, you're a munus"
As it's from an advert on telly, my ...
As it's from an advert on telly, my guess would be it's a made up word that means nothing.
My question is how did you write that ...
My question is how did you write that question at 23:52 on 12 May 2006 when it's only 14:32 on 12 May 2006 now?
poor little web-server. doesn't know ...
poor little web-server. doesn't know what time it is.
don't worry though, we're coaxing it back to full health.
//doesn't know what time it ...
//doesn't know what time it is
Noizy, I know it's Friday, but surely it's not beer o'clock yet? Don't give the server liquor. It's underage.
just a little medicinal brandy to see ...
just a little medicinal brandy to see it through this cold welly afternoon.