fundies wants leftie president killed!

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Bush administration officials Tuesday dismissed Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson's call for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez as the remarks of a private citizen, but Venezuela accused Robertson of promoting terrorism.

Venezuela's Vice President Vicente Rangel accused Robertson of inciting violence and challenged the White House to take action against Robertson.

"What is the U.S. government going to do about this criminal statement made by one of its citizens?" he asked.

Robertson told viewers of his longtime show, "The 700 Club," on Monday that Chavez was turning his oil-rich South American country into "a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent." (Full story)

"If he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think we really ought to go ahead and do it," said Robertson, founder of the Christian Coalition. (Watch video of Robertson's comments)

In Havana, where he had met with Cuban President Fidel Castro to discuss relations between the two countries, Chavez told reporters he had never heard of Robertson.

Asked about the broadcaster's call for his assassination, Chavez said, "It doesn't matter to me."

"I don't know who that person is," he said. "As far as his opinion of me goes, I couldn't care less."

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Tuesday that Robertson has the right of any private citizen to say whatever he wants, but added that the broadcaster's remarks "do not represent the views of the United States."

"His comments are inappropriate," he said. "Allegations that we are planning to take hostile action against the Venezuelan government are completely baseless and without fact."

But Venezuela's ambassador to the United States, Bernardo Alvarez, said Robertson was "no ordinary private citizen" and demanded the White House strongly condemn the remarks.

Alvarez said the Christian Coalition, which Robertson no longer leads, claims some 2 million members and helped jump-start President Bush's 2000 presidential campaign after his New Hampshire primary loss.

"Robertson has been one of this president's staunchest allies," he said.

"The United States might not permit its citizens to use its territory and airwaves to incite terrorists abroad and the murder of a democratically elected president," Alvarez said. "Venezuela demands that the U.S. abide by international and domestic law and respect its country and our president."

Venezuela's vice president said the U.S. response "challenges the antiterrorist ideology of the American government."

"What are the American authorities going to do? The ball is in their court," Rangel said.

Neither Bush nor any White House spokesperson commented on the matter Tuesday.

Former Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole, who ran against Robertson for the GOP presidential nomination in 1988, called the comments "stupid" and "ludicrous" and suggested Robertson apologize "very quickly."

Ties to Cuba
Chavez has built extensive ties to Cuba since he was elected in 1998 and has become a close friend of Castro, selling oil to the communist island at preferential rates.

The colorful former Venezuelan army officer, who once led a coup attempt himself, has the widespread support of his country's poor.

His opponents, largely drawn from the country's middle and upper classes, accuse him of undermining democratic institutions.

Chavez was re-elected under a new constitution in 2000. In 2004, he won a recall referendum with the support of 58 percent of voters.

But he has become an increasingly outspoken critic of the United States, which he accuses of having been behind a 2002 coup attempt that forced him from office for two days.

The Bush administration denied involvement in the coup attempt, but refused to condemn it.

Assassinations of world leaders have been forbidden since 1976 under an executive order from then-President Gerald Ford.

The rule came after congressional hearings in the 1970s documented numerous CIA attempts to kill Castro and U.S. interference in the politics of several other Latin American countries.

Chavez has also said the United States has tried to stir opposition to his government, and he warned this month that U.S. troops would be "soundly defeated" if Washington were to invade Venezuela. (Full story)

But Tuesday, he offered to sell Venezuelan fuel directly to "people who are most in need within the United States" -- bypassing American oil companies to bring cheaper gas prices.

Administration officials have been sharply critical of Venezuela, the fourth-largest supplier of oil to the United States.

During her confirmation hearings, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice singled out Venezuela as a "negative force" in the region, and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has suggested Venezuela has interfered with the internal affairs of other countries in the region.

Rumsfeld also dismissed Robertson's comments Tuesday, telling reporters at the Pentagon that "our department doesn't do that kind of thing."

Last week, the head of the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee, Sen. Arlen Specter, asked Rumsfeld to tone down his anti-Chavez rhetoric, warning that the United States needed Venezuelan help to battle the drug trade.

Venezuela has accused agents from the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency of spying on the Chavez government. The Bush administration denies those allegations as well.

Controversial statements are not new to the 75-year-old Robertson.

He has suggested in the past that a meteor could strike Florida because of unofficial "Gay Days" at Disney World, and that feminism caused women to kill their children, practice witchcraft and become lesbians.

The Rev. Ted Haggard, the president of the National Association of Evangelicals, said Robertson was wrong to recommend the assassination.

But noting that Robertson's show has a section where he's a political pundit, Haggard added, "I think you to need to understand the context."

"I think what he was saying was, we have a looming problem down south, and there are several bad options there. And he's saying maybe the least of the bad options is to do something about the dictator."

The Rev. Barry Lynn of Americans United for Separation of Church and State said, "It's absolutely chilling to hear a religious leader call for the murder any of political leader."

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Forums: The Bar,

Robertson, bonafide Snake in the Temple.

BBC has been running some great stories on Chavez, particularry the workers ownership of Business scheme. Its a winner.

Chavez main problem was Oil, proceeds going to such Communist Lunacys as health, and worse Education. Clearly this is very dangerous to people who have access to the Mainstream Media and directly profit from exploiting countries like Venuzuala. If he is allowed to run his course, then one hopes other countries Workers will follow suit.

A Dictator is not some someone who wins the popular vote with less than 3% of their opponents budget, suffers a Military Coup, sponsered by the Worlds only superpower, then has the people take to the streets for 4 days until he is reinstated. He also one the referendum on his Presidencey....

Speak, and Socalist party of NZ have some really good stuff on Chavez.
Although, obviousley, I am particulary susceptible too such propoganda that reinforces my Belief Structures.

The Socalist Party sent me this

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Theres bag loads at the Guardian too.

This preferential Cuban trading is slightly disenginious, Cuban Doctors are working the slums, and school teachers are in at our Primary level equivilant.

Although the deal just signed with Jamica ($40US/Barrel) is gonna shake things, nearly as much as Chavez offer to supply cheap heating fuel and petrol to Poor Americans.

Frankly, The Man Rocks.

More P.R. from the Reds...

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Far be it for me to endorse Firey Polemic but cop a load of this...

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this weeks favourite;

"we are not building a bank, we are building a new way of life".

Any chance the CTU sending a delegation fom here?

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Robertson voted "Evilist Man of the Year" by www.buffalobeast.com

Their top50 is quite an entertaining read, I was interested in the libel potential ala Tom Cruise

Vincete Fox crying over Lefties getting Chavez backing in pre-Election.
Its well known I'm not one for grandoise statements but if the Zapaista's team up Mexico goes Socailist. and like Fox isn't Bush croney anyway...

Here is Noam Chomsky talking to Radio Havana

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By all thats Holy one day I' get it right...

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WOW... I added the URLs from Citgo.com

//"Venezuela's cut-rate oil sales to the poor of eight US states is right on the money; and it's exactly the type of politics that the world needs more of.

"This week Connecticut was added to the list that already includes Massachusetts, Maine, Rhode Island, Delaware, Pennsylvania, New York and Vermont.

"US politicians who want the marketplace to resolve society's social inequalities are upset that Citgo (http://www.citgo.com/AboutCITGO/PDVSAprofile.jsp), a refiner and gasoline retailer owned by Venezuela, is distributing 44.5 million gallons of discounted heating oil and donating hundreds of thousands to homeless shelters (http://www.citgo.com/CommunityInvolvement/HeatingOil.jsp).

"Some 15,000 low-income Connecticut residents will initially benefit from the program, the state's Attorney General Richard Blumenthal told Reuters.

"The fact that a Third World country can choose to benefit America's poor with cheaper oil is testimony to the failure of President Bush and Congress to provide an energy safety net for the needy during an exceptionally cold winter."

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"Throughout the year in 2004, 88.1 percent of U.S. households were food secure, down from 88.8 percent in 2003. Food-secure households had consistent access to enough food for active healthy lives for all household members at all times during the year. The remaining 11.9 percent (13.5 million households) were food insecure. These households, at some time during the year, had difficulty providing enough food for all their members due to a lack of resources. About a third of food-insecure households (4.4 million, or 3.9 percent of all U.S. households) were food insecure to the extent that one or more household members were hungry, at least some time during the year, because they could not afford enough food. The prevalence of food insecurity with hunger was up from 3.5 percent in 2003."

"In six States, prevalence rates of food insecurity declined from 1999-2001 to 2002-04 by statistically significant percentages, while 14 States registered statistically significant increases. Only in Oregon did food insecurity with hunger decline by a statistically significant percentage during that period, while 15 States registered statistically significant increases in the prevalence of food insecurity with hunger."

http://www.ers.usda.gov/publications/err11/

From the looks of it, with the exception of Delaware, so far Citgo has been providing financial assistance to the same states which the US Economic Research Service has listed as showing statistically significant increases in hunger/'food insecurity', and which stand to suffer the most from cuts to the food stamp budget.

Another critique of the cuts from cbpp.org

//"The Agriculture Committee bill contains cuts in the Food Stamp Program that would result in the termination of assistance for approximately 300,000 low-income people.

"The total cuts in the Agriculture Committee measure — $3.7 billion — are nearly 25 percent greater than the level of cuts that the committee was assigned by this year’s budget resolution. The $844 million in food stamp cuts stands in stark contrast to the Senate Agriculture Committee’s version of the reconciliation bill which does not include any food stamp cuts.

"While the Committee did include two small provisions related to Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, the benefit of these policies is dwarfed by the large benefits cuts in the Food Stamp Program. As noted, these cuts would be on top of cuts in low-income programs under other committees’ jurisdiction, including Medicaid, Child Support, Foster Care and the Supplemental Security Income Program. Taken together, a substantial share of the cuts in the House reconciliation legislation would fall on low-income families and individuals."

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Now its the EU
can Ken Livingstone have George Galloway as his deputy?

On a more selfish level, this link better work first time...

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Vaugelly accurate timeline;

1998: Chavez first non-white elected Venezuela President
1999: Chavez signs into law "the Landless" where all unused Land is given to the landless.
2000: Chaves doubles Cevron Oil Royalties (by Law), starts Mission Identity
2002: Chavez kidnapped, Coup instigated by Otto Reich, U.S. Assistant Secratary of State for
the Western Hemisphere

White House Spokesman
" Just because you win a majority of the Vote dosen't make Chavez Government legitimite"

Anyone scratching their heads over "The War on Drugs" should check out Chavez position on this, also Mercosur Trade Group/Bloc and the implications this has on U.S. hegemoney in Latin America.

// " Just because you win a majority of the Vote dosen't make Chavez Government legitimite"

the irony.

Chavez re-elected in Landslide.

Long live the revolution and may he export it far and wide.

Bono funds War Crimes Video Game

plot synopsis, blow up the entire Capital of Venuzuela as their "Dictator" has nationalized the oil industry. Kill everything that moves.

and it's Bono's company.
make him stop this violent, brain-washing nonesense.

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american arrogance gone mad once again - i mean number of countries Venezuela has invaded - ZERO; Number of countries the USA has invaded - 2 (and soon to be 3 and 4 and maybe 5 depending on the arrogance and greed of dubya)