What an unusual question, of course there is a music scene in Wellington.
I wonder if this question was accidentally posted in the wrong place and should actually have been placed as personals ad which as we all know isn't very well catered for on NZMUSIC.COM? I suggest posting this in the classifieds as:
Scenesters Wanted: Club Meeting every Friday (Venue TBA)
"Do you wear a suit jacket over a t-shirt, your suit jacket will of course be adorned with a multitude of badges you will wear tapered jeans and high top Chuck Taylor shoes, or cowboy boots. Ideally your less cool badges (and seconds) will be arranged on to your bags and or caps so that you can swap items with new scenesters that you meet as the club develops"
Or are you asking seriously and want to know about the Wellington Music Scene which includes some of the following:
Orphans Club, Jazz Club, Choral Federation, The Pines, Wellington Music Collective, Music Industry Export Group, Classical Music Symposium, NZSO, DANZ, APRA, NZ on AIR, Bodega, Valve, Tupelo, Chamber Music Wellington, Massey University Music School, Victoria University Music School, Radio Active, MUNT fm, ROCK Quest, Access Radio, A Low Hum, Swooshsmack, Rockommunity, MIDI, Wellington Music Week, Creative NZ, SOUNDZ, Marmalade, Indigo, Goodluck, Capital Recordings, City of Wellington Pipeband, NZBBA, NZPBA, RMTNZ, St Pauls Cathedral, NBR NZ Opera, Autumn Stone, Charlie Ash, So So Modern, Lady Luck, Phoenix Foundation, Strike, Knife Party, Knife Fight, Psionic, Viscera, Connan and the Mockasins, Jeremy Taylor, Wayne Mason, Te Papa, Wellington Service Industry Workers Association, Baroque Voices, Wellington Sinfonia, Te Papa, Blue Note, Havana, Matterhorn, Malthouse, Arizona, Occidental, Hope Bros, Chow, The Front Room, Ghostplane, Crumb, Odessa, Fuser, Rhombus, Disaster Radio, Lady Luck, Dukes of Leisure, The Black Seeds, Many Hands, Eclipse, Shihad, Anubis Spire, Viscera, Alabaster Theatre, Eastside, Tussocks, Fat Freddys Drop, Blake, Windy City Strugglers, Pattern, Rodrigez Brothers, NoiZyland, Jacky Tar, Jonathan Crayford, The Scribes of Ra, Stylus 77 (or whatever they are called now), Happy, John Psathas, Bad Apple Orchestra, Velvetones, Dangerpin, Tunnel to the Sun, Fivefold Kiss, Jet Jaguar, Grand Lollies, Autozamm, Plastic Plastic, Goodnight Nurse, Marineville, Trinity Roots, Jayrem, Loop, The Stench Room, Fly My Pretties, Salmonella Dub, Jeremy Taylor and the Wasted Years, Flying Saucer Audio, Blair Jones, Nic McGowan, Mark Hammil, GND, Elena, Polly Prior, Audio Sauce, Orpheus Choir, Inca Productions, Geoff Duncan, Little Ed Pictures, Island Bay Studio, Jayrem, Vitus Dance, Rhian Sheehan, Ben Lummis, Sandwiches, The Wellington Folk Centre, Alastairs Music, Kantuta, Upper Hutt Posse, Brooke Fraser, Tommy, Amber Technology, Protel NZ, The Film Unit, Get This One, Afronesia, Bat Rider, Fur Patrol, Charlotte Yates, Eelmen, The Offbeats, Roger Fox Big Band, Twin Set, Video Kid, Unreal Films, Hot off the Prescott Productions, Independent and General Productions, Flash Harry, Park Road Post, Ebb, Wellington Music Week, The Labcoats, Nil, Mike Fabulous, Nouveau Riche, Cloud Productions, The Royal Family, TVNZ, IMMF, Verona, Matrix, Plan 9, Film Wellington, Nil, Brother Love, Base Two, Kraft Haus, Vocoder, The Surgery, The Flight of the Concords, The Warratahs, Wai, 50hz, Barry Saunders, Smokeshop, Brannigan Kaa, C. L. Bob, Deadend Beat, Michelle Sculion, Foot Souljahs, Southside of Bombay, Kora, Shakhan, Hairy Lollies, Datsun Stereo, First Light Productions, The Blueset, Wellington Sinfonia, Alphanoise, Flesh D-Vice, Armana, Grand Prix, Bunnies on Ponies, Origin One Films, Hot Swiss Mistress, Wellington Youth Choir, Shagpile Pictures, Artsplash, Human Dynamo, Seed Productions, The Picture House, The New Zealand National Yout Choir, New Zealand Post National Youth Orchestra, El Ritualis, King Jankoff, The Wanderers, Smart Arts Visual Distractions, Be Op, Wingnut Films, Cuff Links, The Actualities, Tuesday People, The Bristol, Zebos, Tunnel to the Sun, Acid Jacks, Execam, Pacific Film, Westside Studios, Top Shelf Productions, Candlelight Pictures, NZFX Ltd, Best Boy, PAF, Zippitoons, La Hood, Robotechnology, Preston-Laing Productions, Weta DFX, Animantics Animation, Gibson Group, PRS Productions, Jazz Dive Live Music, Stick Films, Sticky Pictures, AMCOS, The Dubshop, Handle the Jandal, CWA New Media, Mana FM, Oktobor, Positive Pictures, Morse Media, NZMUSIC.COM, Provid Pictures, XS TV, Ninox Television, Pacific Crews, Wild Iris Productions, Seed Productions, PRIME TV, KCFM Radio, Monkey Bar, Absolutely Positively, Lightin Up, Unkle Monkey, Monkey Puzzle, KiwiComedy.Com, The Big Kumara, Albatross String Quartet, Tower Music, Jansen Professional Audio & Lighting, The Rock Shop, Mainline Music, Real Groovy, Slow Boat, Weta Guitars, Buzz Audio, Theos Greek Taverna, Jollywood Productions, Coasters Musical Theatre, Sounds, Wellington Musicians Club, Unlimited, Musical Theatre NZ, The CD & DVD Store, Antamac Duplication, Central City Music Hire, Vision Studios, Groove 107.7 FM, Radio New Zealand, Bats Theatre, Downstage, Circa, Te Whaea, The Improvisors, MJF Lighting, Grouse Lighting, Wellington Repertory Theatre, Wellington International Jazz Festival, The Package, The Wellington Fashion Festival, The Design Ball, Cuba Carnival, International Festival of the Arts, Fringe Festival, Wellington Live, Percy Feral, Cherry's Gemstones, Bass Frontiers, Zugboot, MIX FM, Hellserpoppin, Gareth Thomas and the Spectacles, Not Quite Right, Salient, Latinos, NZSME, Leila Adu, Carousel, The Hobnail Boots, Mickey Finn, Shelley Taylor, Rex Royale, Attik, Cortina, Chrometoaster, Orangefarm, Nort, Elston Gun, The Evils, Miss Conduct, The Inkling (I think), Slowdance, The Henderson Experience, Skint, Caledonian Hotel, Stratacruz, DasBen, Dragstrip, Fire, Katipo Cafe, Alphanoise, The Housewives, The Sunday Experiment, Sullen Moon (I think).
Becuase I don't get out too often some of these groups may not exist anymore but these are all of the Wellington venues, bands, tv and film companies and music associated organisations that I can think of right now that contribute to the Wellington Music Scene.
Please accept my apology that I didn't list you. Either I forgot or I haven't met, seen, heard you yet. Feel free to list more organisations and individuals that contribute to the Wellington Music Scene as this is only a small beginning.
scene? bah. we have many many "Scenes". dork. of course we have a music scene. And no, we don't have the population that auckland does, but most wellintonians have much more varied taste in music than jumped up little auckland "scenesters". so we go to all different kinds of gigs. lots of different styles.
//scene? bah. we have many many "Scenes". dork. of course we have a music scene. And no, we don't have the population that auckland does, but most wellintonians have much more varied taste in music than jumped up little auckland "scenesters". so we go to all different kinds of gigs. lots of different styles.
Yeah you're right, because we're from Auckland we don't have any musical taste and only care about looking cool. I only come to this lame site so that it shows up in my safari history, which I casually leave on screen when I leave the office so people can see how hip I am. Of course I use a mac too, it's what all arty and creative people use, so I had to have one as well.
Actually I hate most music and only play the stupid guitar to get girls. If it were up to me, I'd follow my passion - tuba. The booming brassy tone of the tuba is what I crave, but society views it in much the same way as domestic abuse or drink driving. Truth be told, I'd compose a jazz opera, using an orchestra of only tubas. One day, when society's view of this magnificent instrument changes, I'll put the guitar down for good, and take off this mask of pretension. One day.
Huh? I wasn't trying to get at you, just taking the piss a little. You're actually not that far off in some ways, the auckland scene is really try hard and incredibly pretentious, esp with regard to what you wear to gigs - there's kind of an unspoken rule that if you go to any sort of live gig involving guitar rock, you should look like you just stepped out of pavement magazine.
I keep trying to get all the way through that list and I get about halfway before I go crossed, and re-read the same line 12 times. Then get confused thinking you have repeated yourself and end up banging my head on the keyboard.
Good work Tane!!! Glad to see you noted so many of welly's up and coming talent (The Henderson Experience, Sidecar Fury, King Jankoff, OdESSA, Knifeparty, Rearview Murder, among many many talented others)
Why the ugh? Do you mean, "in" the queen (city)? Or the actual queen? If it's the latter, I'm totally confused. If it's the former, I moved back in May. I'd like to get your thoughts on some of the stuff I'm working on Dave, email me if you're keen to have a listen - samjbrowne@gmail.com
I was just going from my memory and I found it really hard to remember Libra Accord..................but I kept banging my head against the desk and it finally came to me.
Sorry that I didn't remember earlier and apologies to others that I have inadvertantly missed out.
Blink, Jon Jr, City Gallery, Newtown Fair, Wellington City Council, Supernova, Tried For Treason, Stage, Basement, Eclipse, Concrete, The Last Supper Club, Not Quite Right, No Love Lost, Agent C, Cop Car. Idle Faction, Oos, Assorted Sweets, Rear View Murder, Punk As, John Mills Accoustic Lounge, Side Car Fury (I think), Mir (Are they still around?), Six Foot Thumb, The Holly Smith Trio (I think), Dope Smoking Wizard, Julie Bevan Trio, Tessa Rain, The Vipers, El Hombre, Shaken Not Stirred, Christopher Hill, Baxter, Hung Jury, The War Within, Sidecar Fury, Time Only Passes, Stingfish, Beatroootz, Barnaby Weir, Festival Singers of Wellington, Clare Christian, Gateseven, NAY Records, The Montana World of WearableArt Awards, Creative: Positively Wellington Business, Wellington Music Therapy Programme, Rock Barge, Summer Festival, Groove Distribution, cdkiwi.co.nz, maorimusic.com, Melanie Tahata, Freedom Shop, Harbour City Records, If I Had a Gun, Brubeck, Blondinis, Jeremy Geor, The Letterbox Lambs (are they still around?), Wellington Gilbert & Sullivan Society, Breathe (are they still around?), The Sproutts, Promethean Editions, Wire Bridge, Dirk Drent, Go Fish, Scope Music, Unearth, Mediatrix Publishing, Dark Habit, Involve Records, Eclectic, Smoke CDs, HRL Morrison Music Trust, artscalendar.co.nz, Gareth Farr, 8 Dec, Celebrate, Psi, Phenomenon, Hell On, World Resources, Pseudoarcana...............
Nato, Liam, Jedi, Camilla, ZMFM, BAHOS, BART BODEGA, Gina Mills, Frankie Stevens, David Greer, Wellignton Piano Trio, Stroma, Madness Music, Unity Bookshop, tki.org, Learning Media, Ministry of Culture, Vertical Studios, Dimitry Kazakov, Charlotte, Lukin Marlow, Ella Hanify, Saxcess, Dorothy Buchahan, BayBrass, Flipside, Wellington Macintosh Society Incorporated, Universal Childrens Audio, Kevin Almy, St Andrew's on the Terrace, Vodafone, 42 Below, Atiawa Toa FM, Bags Groove, Michael Smither, Dylan Lardelli, Wellington Police Pipe Band, New Zealand Police Brass Band, Mantis, Beat Merchants, Parsons Books & Music, National Library, Wellington Film Society
Apologies to those still missed from the ever expanding Wellington music scene. As I say I don't get out too often so can't be expected to know everything.................
Have a good day and, Happy Birthday for the other day.
Ok, so you left stuff out.
My question is... Why did you put these ones in?
Unity Bookshop, tki.org, Learning Media, Ministry of Culture, Wellington Macintosh Society Incorporated, Universal Childrens Audio, , Vodafone, 42 Below, , Parsons Books & Music,, Wellington Film Society
, City Gallery, The Last Supper Club, The Montana World of WearableArt Awards, , , St Pauls Cathedral, Te Papa, Wellington Service Industry Workers Association, Chow, , The Stench Room, , Ben Lummis, , Park Road Post, Wingnut Films, Weta DFX, , Stick Films, , Oktobor, , Theos Greek Taverna, Jollywood Productions, Te Whaea, , The Wellington Fashion Festival,
And that list doesn't include the stuff like apra that's in Auckland, or bands like Brother Love (also Auckland).
I put in some organisations that I know directly support local the local music scene by selling local music, sponsoring shows and becuase there are a whole lot of creative industries that work to support and nurture the Wellington music scene.
If I started doing some more thorough research then I would find even more places like.............
Ripcurl and other Surf 'n' Ski places, fashion stores and clothing stores - probably even more businesses but I can't think of their names. If I start going through the phone book I will be able to list a lot more organisations.
APRA are based in Auckland but they have helped me a lot so maybe I should start listing magazines, tv and reviewers etc that contribute to the Wellington music scene......................
actually i think some of the problem- the reason this question has been asked- is that most music media is based in Auckland: ie C4, Juice, Rip it up, Real Groove, etc. And so whats hot right now in Wellington has been bubbling under for quite some time, its just taken longer for Auckland media to catch on. And vice versa- whats huge in Auckland doesn't necessarily make it known in Welly- eg the "most promising new act" catagory at the B-nets most years.
tki.org (Ministry of Education website) have often included links to Wellington (and NZ) bands and musicians are based in Wellington and like to know what is going on and will support through advertising, internal memos and other ways that they believe are appropriate.
St Pauls Cathedral have choirs including a youth choir that is open to all children regardless of faith or denomination. The Cathedral has often been available for a wide range of performances and can offer a wide range of opportunities if you can do something that fits.
Weta DFX are very generous with their equipment and time and have contributed to many Wellington music videos for free or for cost price.
I could keep ging on with the others that you asked me why I included them and hope that you can see through education, opportunity, support etc you can see how those businesses and organisations contribute to the Wellington music scene.
//tki.org (Ministry of Education website) have often included links to Wellington (and NZ) bands and musicians are based in Wellington and like to know what is going on and will support through advertising, internal memos and other ways that they believe are appropriate.
I think the question has been misrepresented. It's obvious the topic starter didn't mean "does music exist in wellington" but whether wellington has a similar close-knit community (or series of communities) of musicians. Personally I would've thought that's a given.
And while I'm here, because this is a pet peeve of mine, I think the Auckland scene(s) is (are) also regularly misrepresented. When talking about the "scene" I've never heard anyone complain about, or even mention hiphop or pop scenes, despite there being close-knit communities of both in Auckland; people focus back on the indie/rocknroll scene and complain that it's full of pretentious auckland wankers.
For starters, there's more than one indie subscene in Auckland, and they all seem to have different prevailing fashions. Next, those scenes have a lot of influence from non-Auckland bands and organisers; particularly Blink and the corresponding wellington indie crowd. Most importantly, people go and see music that they enjoy, which usually means they go to similar sorts of gigs and hang out with the same people most of the time. What's wrong with that? Lots of people dress up "trendy". So what? Everyone's influenced by the fashions of the people they hang out with. Do you think you're better than some skinny white boy in a second-hand suit jacket and chuck taylors just because you wear the same shapeless black sweatshirt every day? Doesn't that amount to the same obsession with a particular fashion?
The reason this is such an issue for me is because every time I've gone out to any of these gigs, ever since I moved to Auckland in fact, all those pretentious Auckland wankers I've heard so much about have been nothing but friendly. Sometimes they're difficult to get to know - wary of new people, but they've always, without fail, been nice to me. I've never been looked down on for what i was wearing, even when I stuck out like a sore thumb. I've never had people diss me because I didn't (or did) like a particular band. I've never had girls get catty because they see me as some kind of competition. Maybe I've just been extraordinarily lucky that I happened to meet just the right people, but all in all I think that people who complain about the pretentious Auckland scene are just allergic to "trendy" people because they were geeks in their home towns. Well, I was a geek in my home town and I felt horribly inadequate for a long time, and it was the friends I made in Auckland that got me over that.
Oops quick rephrase, one catty girl. Three years though, not bad odds.
Sorry gatman, unavailable, plus *coff* I'd really rather not cross rattlesnake. That's one awesome (and slightly scary) MPD case.
You've once again hit the nail on the head with that post Heather. I have yet to experience this wanky Auckland scene and I'm a regular visitor to KA, Odeon, Edens, Bollix etc.
The reality is that Wellingtonians often exhibit a similar chip on the shoulder attitude towards Auckland that we as NZers feel towards Australia.
I'm a born and bred Wellingtonian and it never ceases to amaze me that whenever visiting Wellington, a city by the way that I still love, I always cop the boring old Ork Dork quips with depressing regularity.
This is not in general a 2-way street - Aucklanders in my experience don't look down on other parts of the country in the same way that the rest of the country views Auckland.
Classic example of this behaviour - Carlos Spencer gets booed at Jade Stadium, Merthens cheered on as a replacement during All Black trials at Eden Park.
I'd been hearing people talk about a lot of new bands emerging out of Welli at the moment - is this right? Just wondered whether there was a new 'scene' emerging from out there - the kiwi band scene has pretty much been ruled by Akld bands it seems?
basically what Kirk said before, about the fact that music media is based in auckland generally and so an auckland-centric outlook naturally prevails. And the fact that auckland has the biggest population - it could be said there's more of everything there.
But, all provincial bias aside, I'd says that perhaps the greatest concentration of scenes and bands and artists, patricularly the indie variety, has been sprouting out of wellington in the past few years.
Definitely on a per-head basis, wgtn is fucken packed with music acts forming.
but if you're asking about a "scene" as in cliques and wearing the right clothes and sounding like the right bands, I think it exists everywhere. That's what it's all about for many of you, right?
hehe its nice to have you back in the NZM.com house...
i'm considering buying some tight black jeans and heavy black eyeliner and some fuck off pointy boots especially to wear to rock gigs. So the kids don't look at me like "you should be at a drum n bass gig...." or something.
no you're right.. i'm just jealous of people who can actually walk in heels...
and EZ rollers sits right next to the Earlies in my CD collection and i'm not insecure about that. Its OKAY to like drum n bass.
and you're also right about wellington bitching about auckland more than vice versa. its true. hey, Some of my best friends are aucklanders. kind of. well, not by breeding.
Wellington has slowly recovered from being Govt town and creatively caught up with the likes of Dunedin, Auckland and Chch in about 1989. We then had a good few magic years: with Shihad, HLAH, Lambs, Short, Bilge, then: the dub scene mid nineties, end of nineties: a little rock revival with Cassette, TLBT, 'staple, and now the big roots/dub explosion and the minor indie revival.
Overall we do OK. All bands tour nationally after a while so every thing is connected and regions don't compete on any level. Media and industry is Auckland based but not biased (except for Rip It Up who now suck advertorial dick).
I'm all for looking after the local 'hood but fuck this us vs them thing. If there is a 'scene' in Wgtn I'm moving out. The best part of Welly is under no-scene rules anything can happen and it could be right now. I once heard one pillock made a "chart" of the scene. Boo this.
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Yes.
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hahaha! hey, it may not have a sky ...
hahaha!
hey, it may not have a sky tower but it does have a pretty decent number of bands!
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sorry bout the sky tower thing
y bt its nt as bg as akl so thr arnt as ...
y bt its nt as bg as akl so thr arnt as mny ppl
What an unusual question, of course ...
What an unusual question, of course there is a music scene in Wellington.
I wonder if this question was accidentally posted in the wrong place and should actually have been placed as personals ad which as we all know isn't very well catered for on NZMUSIC.COM? I suggest posting this in the classifieds as:
Scenesters Wanted: Club Meeting every Friday (Venue TBA)
"Do you wear a suit jacket over a t-shirt, your suit jacket will of course be adorned with a multitude of badges you will wear tapered jeans and high top Chuck Taylor shoes, or cowboy boots. Ideally your less cool badges (and seconds) will be arranged on to your bags and or caps so that you can swap items with new scenesters that you meet as the club develops"
Or are you asking seriously and want to know about the Wellington Music Scene which includes some of the following:
Orphans Club, Jazz Club, Choral Federation, The Pines, Wellington Music Collective, Music Industry Export Group, Classical Music Symposium, NZSO, DANZ, APRA, NZ on AIR, Bodega, Valve, Tupelo, Chamber Music Wellington, Massey University Music School, Victoria University Music School, Radio Active, MUNT fm, ROCK Quest, Access Radio, A Low Hum, Swooshsmack, Rockommunity, MIDI, Wellington Music Week, Creative NZ, SOUNDZ, Marmalade, Indigo, Goodluck, Capital Recordings, City of Wellington Pipeband, NZBBA, NZPBA, RMTNZ, St Pauls Cathedral, NBR NZ Opera, Autumn Stone, Charlie Ash, So So Modern, Lady Luck, Phoenix Foundation, Strike, Knife Party, Knife Fight, Psionic, Viscera, Connan and the Mockasins, Jeremy Taylor, Wayne Mason, Te Papa, Wellington Service Industry Workers Association, Baroque Voices, Wellington Sinfonia, Te Papa, Blue Note, Havana, Matterhorn, Malthouse, Arizona, Occidental, Hope Bros, Chow, The Front Room, Ghostplane, Crumb, Odessa, Fuser, Rhombus, Disaster Radio, Lady Luck, Dukes of Leisure, The Black Seeds, Many Hands, Eclipse, Shihad, Anubis Spire, Viscera, Alabaster Theatre, Eastside, Tussocks, Fat Freddys Drop, Blake, Windy City Strugglers, Pattern, Rodrigez Brothers, NoiZyland, Jacky Tar, Jonathan Crayford, The Scribes of Ra, Stylus 77 (or whatever they are called now), Happy, John Psathas, Bad Apple Orchestra, Velvetones, Dangerpin, Tunnel to the Sun, Fivefold Kiss, Jet Jaguar, Grand Lollies, Autozamm, Plastic Plastic, Goodnight Nurse, Marineville, Trinity Roots, Jayrem, Loop, The Stench Room, Fly My Pretties, Salmonella Dub, Jeremy Taylor and the Wasted Years, Flying Saucer Audio, Blair Jones, Nic McGowan, Mark Hammil, GND, Elena, Polly Prior, Audio Sauce, Orpheus Choir, Inca Productions, Geoff Duncan, Little Ed Pictures, Island Bay Studio, Jayrem, Vitus Dance, Rhian Sheehan, Ben Lummis, Sandwiches, The Wellington Folk Centre, Alastairs Music, Kantuta, Upper Hutt Posse, Brooke Fraser, Tommy, Amber Technology, Protel NZ, The Film Unit, Get This One, Afronesia, Bat Rider, Fur Patrol, Charlotte Yates, Eelmen, The Offbeats, Roger Fox Big Band, Twin Set, Video Kid, Unreal Films, Hot off the Prescott Productions, Independent and General Productions, Flash Harry, Park Road Post, Ebb, Wellington Music Week, The Labcoats, Nil, Mike Fabulous, Nouveau Riche, Cloud Productions, The Royal Family, TVNZ, IMMF, Verona, Matrix, Plan 9, Film Wellington, Nil, Brother Love, Base Two, Kraft Haus, Vocoder, The Surgery, The Flight of the Concords, The Warratahs, Wai, 50hz, Barry Saunders, Smokeshop, Brannigan Kaa, C. L. Bob, Deadend Beat, Michelle Sculion, Foot Souljahs, Southside of Bombay, Kora, Shakhan, Hairy Lollies, Datsun Stereo, First Light Productions, The Blueset, Wellington Sinfonia, Alphanoise, Flesh D-Vice, Armana, Grand Prix, Bunnies on Ponies, Origin One Films, Hot Swiss Mistress, Wellington Youth Choir, Shagpile Pictures, Artsplash, Human Dynamo, Seed Productions, The Picture House, The New Zealand National Yout Choir, New Zealand Post National Youth Orchestra, El Ritualis, King Jankoff, The Wanderers, Smart Arts Visual Distractions, Be Op, Wingnut Films, Cuff Links, The Actualities, Tuesday People, The Bristol, Zebos, Tunnel to the Sun, Acid Jacks, Execam, Pacific Film, Westside Studios, Top Shelf Productions, Candlelight Pictures, NZFX Ltd, Best Boy, PAF, Zippitoons, La Hood, Robotechnology, Preston-Laing Productions, Weta DFX, Animantics Animation, Gibson Group, PRS Productions, Jazz Dive Live Music, Stick Films, Sticky Pictures, AMCOS, The Dubshop, Handle the Jandal, CWA New Media, Mana FM, Oktobor, Positive Pictures, Morse Media, NZMUSIC.COM, Provid Pictures, XS TV, Ninox Television, Pacific Crews, Wild Iris Productions, Seed Productions, PRIME TV, KCFM Radio, Monkey Bar, Absolutely Positively, Lightin Up, Unkle Monkey, Monkey Puzzle, KiwiComedy.Com, The Big Kumara, Albatross String Quartet, Tower Music, Jansen Professional Audio & Lighting, The Rock Shop, Mainline Music, Real Groovy, Slow Boat, Weta Guitars, Buzz Audio, Theos Greek Taverna, Jollywood Productions, Coasters Musical Theatre, Sounds, Wellington Musicians Club, Unlimited, Musical Theatre NZ, The CD & DVD Store, Antamac Duplication, Central City Music Hire, Vision Studios, Groove 107.7 FM, Radio New Zealand, Bats Theatre, Downstage, Circa, Te Whaea, The Improvisors, MJF Lighting, Grouse Lighting, Wellington Repertory Theatre, Wellington International Jazz Festival, The Package, The Wellington Fashion Festival, The Design Ball, Cuba Carnival, International Festival of the Arts, Fringe Festival, Wellington Live, Percy Feral, Cherry's Gemstones, Bass Frontiers, Zugboot, MIX FM, Hellserpoppin, Gareth Thomas and the Spectacles, Not Quite Right, Salient, Latinos, NZSME, Leila Adu, Carousel, The Hobnail Boots, Mickey Finn, Shelley Taylor, Rex Royale, Attik, Cortina, Chrometoaster, Orangefarm, Nort, Elston Gun, The Evils, Miss Conduct, The Inkling (I think), Slowdance, The Henderson Experience, Skint, Caledonian Hotel, Stratacruz, DasBen, Dragstrip, Fire, Katipo Cafe, Alphanoise, The Housewives, The Sunday Experiment, Sullen Moon (I think).
Becuase I don't get out too often some of these groups may not exist anymore but these are all of the Wellington venues, bands, tv and film companies and music associated organisations that I can think of right now that contribute to the Wellington Music Scene.
Please accept my apology that I didn't list you. Either I forgot or I haven't met, seen, heard you yet. Feel free to list more organisations and individuals that contribute to the Wellington Music Scene as this is only a small beginning.
Oops, I forgot The Chandeliers!...
Oops, I forgot The Chandeliers!
scene? bah. we have many many "Scenes". ...
scene? bah. we have many many "Scenes". dork. of course we have a music scene. And no, we don't have the population that auckland does, but most wellintonians have much more varied taste in music than jumped up little auckland "scenesters". so we go to all different kinds of gigs. lots of different styles.
//scene? bah. we have many many ...
//scene? bah. we have many many "Scenes". dork. of course we have a music scene. And no, we don't have the population that auckland does, but most wellintonians have much more varied taste in music than jumped up little auckland "scenesters". so we go to all different kinds of gigs. lots of different styles.
Yeah you're right, because we're from Auckland we don't have any musical taste and only care about looking cool. I only come to this lame site so that it shows up in my safari history, which I casually leave on screen when I leave the office so people can see how hip I am. Of course I use a mac too, it's what all arty and creative people use, so I had to have one as well.
Actually I hate most music and only play the stupid guitar to get girls. If it were up to me, I'd follow my passion - tuba. The booming brassy tone of the tuba is what I crave, but society views it in much the same way as domestic abuse or drink driving. Truth be told, I'd compose a jazz opera, using an orchestra of only tubas. One day, when society's view of this magnificent instrument changes, I'll put the guitar down for good, and take off this mask of pretension. One day.
This is the "real" me....
This is the "real" me.
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O come on portia that was obviously not ...
O come on portia that was obviously not directed at you, but 'scenester' that started this topic.
Huh? I wasn't trying to get at you, ...
Huh? I wasn't trying to get at you, just taking the piss a little. You're actually not that far off in some ways, the auckland scene is really try hard and incredibly pretentious, esp with regard to what you wear to gigs - there's kind of an unspoken rule that if you go to any sort of live gig involving guitar rock, you should look like you just stepped out of pavement magazine.
You left out "The festering ...
You left out "The festering Poo-Holes"!!!
Oh, and "Tane McLeay"...
Oh, and "Tane McLeay"
Oh and Portia... //because we're ...
Oh and Portia...
//because we're from Auckland
Ugh, since when have you been the queen?
I keep trying to get all the way ...
I keep trying to get all the way through that list and I get about halfway before I go crossed, and re-read the same line 12 times. Then get confused thinking you have repeated yourself and end up banging my head on the keyboard.
Good work Tane!!! Glad to see you noted so many of welly's up and coming talent (The Henderson Experience, Sidecar Fury, King Jankoff, OdESSA, Knifeparty, Rearview Murder, among many many talented others)
Top stuff mate :D
Why the ugh? Do you mean, "in" the ...
Why the ugh? Do you mean, "in" the queen (city)? Or the actual queen? If it's the latter, I'm totally confused. If it's the former, I moved back in May. I'd like to get your thoughts on some of the stuff I'm working on Dave, email me if you're keen to have a listen - samjbrowne@gmail.com
I meant "the" Queen. That was the ...
I meant "the" Queen. That was the 'royal we', wasn't it.
All HAILS TO TANE!!! Though you forgot ...
All HAILS TO TANE!!!
Though you forgot RBG Records, easy mistake though, only new.
GO TANE, GO!!!
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RGB Records, Rico Suave, Libra Accord, ...
RGB Records, Rico Suave, Libra Accord, Spartacus R...............................
yeah tane, I was hurt and shocked that ...
yeah tane, I was hurt and shocked that Libra Accord missed the initial boat.
but now
rectified. haha
I was just going from my memory and I ...
I was just going from my memory and I found it really hard to remember Libra Accord..................but I kept banging my head against the desk and it finally came to me.
Sorry that I didn't remember earlier and apologies to others that I have inadvertantly missed out.
Think you left out Blink and Supernova...
Think you left out Blink and Supernova
There was A Low ...
There was A Low Hum..................
Blink, Jon Jr, City Gallery, Newtown Fair, Wellington City Council, Supernova, Tried For Treason, Stage, Basement, Eclipse, Concrete, The Last Supper Club, Not Quite Right, No Love Lost, Agent C, Cop Car. Idle Faction, Oos, Assorted Sweets, Rear View Murder, Punk As, John Mills Accoustic Lounge, Side Car Fury (I think), Mir (Are they still around?), Six Foot Thumb, The Holly Smith Trio (I think), Dope Smoking Wizard, Julie Bevan Trio, Tessa Rain, The Vipers, El Hombre, Shaken Not Stirred, Christopher Hill, Baxter, Hung Jury, The War Within, Sidecar Fury, Time Only Passes, Stingfish, Beatroootz, Barnaby Weir, Festival Singers of Wellington, Clare Christian, Gateseven, NAY Records, The Montana World of WearableArt Awards, Creative: Positively Wellington Business, Wellington Music Therapy Programme, Rock Barge, Summer Festival, Groove Distribution, cdkiwi.co.nz, maorimusic.com, Melanie Tahata, Freedom Shop, Harbour City Records, If I Had a Gun, Brubeck, Blondinis, Jeremy Geor, The Letterbox Lambs (are they still around?), Wellington Gilbert & Sullivan Society, Breathe (are they still around?), The Sproutts, Promethean Editions, Wire Bridge, Dirk Drent, Go Fish, Scope Music, Unearth, Mediatrix Publishing, Dark Habit, Involve Records, Eclectic, Smoke CDs, HRL Morrison Music Trust, artscalendar.co.nz, Gareth Farr, 8 Dec, Celebrate, Psi, Phenomenon, Hell On, World Resources, Pseudoarcana...............
two lists and i didn't make it on ...
two lists and i didn't make it on either of them.
screw you guys, i'm gonna go start my own scene.
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There was Lady Luck, Nato, Liam, ...
There was Lady Luck,
Nato, Liam, Jedi, Camilla, ZMFM, BAHOS, BART BODEGA, Gina Mills, Frankie Stevens, David Greer, Wellignton Piano Trio, Stroma, Madness Music, Unity Bookshop, tki.org, Learning Media, Ministry of Culture, Vertical Studios, Dimitry Kazakov, Charlotte, Lukin Marlow, Ella Hanify, Saxcess, Dorothy Buchahan, BayBrass, Flipside, Wellington Macintosh Society Incorporated, Universal Childrens Audio, Kevin Almy, St Andrew's on the Terrace, Vodafone, 42 Below, Atiawa Toa FM, Bags Groove, Michael Smither, Dylan Lardelli, Wellington Police Pipe Band, New Zealand Police Brass Band, Mantis, Beat Merchants, Parsons Books & Music, National Library, Wellington Film Society
Apologies to those still missed from the ever expanding Wellington music scene. As I say I don't get out too often so can't be expected to know everything.................
Have a good day and, Happy Birthday for the other day.
Tane
Ok, so you left stuff out. My question ...
Ok, so you left stuff out.
My question is... Why did you put these ones in?
Unity Bookshop, tki.org, Learning Media, Ministry of Culture, Wellington Macintosh Society Incorporated, Universal Childrens Audio, , Vodafone, 42 Below, , Parsons Books & Music,, Wellington Film Society
, City Gallery, The Last Supper Club, The Montana World of WearableArt Awards, , , St Pauls Cathedral, Te Papa, Wellington Service Industry Workers Association, Chow, , The Stench Room, , Ben Lummis, , Park Road Post, Wingnut Films, Weta DFX, , Stick Films, , Oktobor, , Theos Greek Taverna, Jollywood Productions, Te Whaea, , The Wellington Fashion Festival,
And that list doesn't include the stuff like apra that's in Auckland, or bands like Brother Love (also Auckland).
I put in some organisations that I know ...
I put in some organisations that I know directly support local the local music scene by selling local music, sponsoring shows and becuase there are a whole lot of creative industries that work to support and nurture the Wellington music scene.
If I started doing some more thorough research then I would find even more places like.............
Ripcurl and other Surf 'n' Ski places, fashion stores and clothing stores - probably even more businesses but I can't think of their names. If I start going through the phone book I will be able to list a lot more organisations.
APRA are based in Auckland but they have helped me a lot so maybe I should start listing magazines, tv and reviewers etc that contribute to the Wellington music scene......................
I'll do some more thinking.
actually i think some of the problem- ...
actually i think some of the problem- the reason this question has been asked- is that most music media is based in Auckland: ie C4, Juice, Rip it up, Real Groove, etc. And so whats hot right now in Wellington has been bubbling under for quite some time, its just taken longer for Auckland media to catch on. And vice versa- whats huge in Auckland doesn't necessarily make it known in Welly- eg the "most promising new act" catagory at the B-nets most years.
Dera dragstrip, tki.org (Ministry of ...
Dera dragstrip,
tki.org (Ministry of Education website) have often included links to Wellington (and NZ) bands and musicians are based in Wellington and like to know what is going on and will support through advertising, internal memos and other ways that they believe are appropriate.
St Pauls Cathedral have choirs including a youth choir that is open to all children regardless of faith or denomination. The Cathedral has often been available for a wide range of performances and can offer a wide range of opportunities if you can do something that fits.
Weta DFX are very generous with their equipment and time and have contributed to many Wellington music videos for free or for cost price.
I could keep ging on with the others that you asked me why I included them and hope that you can see through education, opportunity, support etc you can see how those businesses and organisations contribute to the Wellington music scene.
Yours sincerely,
Tane McLeay
//tki.org (Ministry of Education ...
//tki.org (Ministry of Education website) have often included links to Wellington (and NZ) bands and musicians are based in Wellington and like to know what is going on and will support through advertising, internal memos and other ways that they believe are appropriate.
Err, that's tki.org.nz
Thanks for the correction Joanna....
Thanks for the correction Joanna.
Sorry, What was the question? In ...
Sorry, What was the question?
In plagien englieeeesh!
I think the sincere question was: "Is ...
I think the sincere question was: "Is Auckland really the centre of the music universe, or is there truly life beyond it?"
or "Is there life beyond the Bombay ...
or "Is there life beyond the Bombay hills? "
//Is there life beyond the Bombay ...
//Is there life beyond the Bombay hills?
Isn't that a question that is asked on both sides of the Bombay Hills?
I think the question has been ...
I think the question has been misrepresented. It's obvious the topic starter didn't mean "does music exist in wellington" but whether wellington has a similar close-knit community (or series of communities) of musicians. Personally I would've thought that's a given.
And while I'm here, because this is a pet peeve of mine, I think the Auckland scene(s) is (are) also regularly misrepresented. When talking about the "scene" I've never heard anyone complain about, or even mention hiphop or pop scenes, despite there being close-knit communities of both in Auckland; people focus back on the indie/rocknroll scene and complain that it's full of pretentious auckland wankers.
For starters, there's more than one indie subscene in Auckland, and they all seem to have different prevailing fashions. Next, those scenes have a lot of influence from non-Auckland bands and organisers; particularly Blink and the corresponding wellington indie crowd. Most importantly, people go and see music that they enjoy, which usually means they go to similar sorts of gigs and hang out with the same people most of the time. What's wrong with that? Lots of people dress up "trendy". So what? Everyone's influenced by the fashions of the people they hang out with. Do you think you're better than some skinny white boy in a second-hand suit jacket and chuck taylors just because you wear the same shapeless black sweatshirt every day? Doesn't that amount to the same obsession with a particular fashion?
The reason this is such an issue for me is because every time I've gone out to any of these gigs, ever since I moved to Auckland in fact, all those pretentious Auckland wankers I've heard so much about have been nothing but friendly. Sometimes they're difficult to get to know - wary of new people, but they've always, without fail, been nice to me. I've never been looked down on for what i was wearing, even when I stuck out like a sore thumb. I've never had people diss me because I didn't (or did) like a particular band. I've never had girls get catty because they see me as some kind of competition. Maybe I've just been extraordinarily lucky that I happened to meet just the right people, but all in all I think that people who complain about the pretentious Auckland scene are just allergic to "trendy" people because they were geeks in their home towns. Well, I was a geek in my home town and I felt horribly inadequate for a long time, and it was the friends I made in Auckland that got me over that.
Other chicks only get catty if you're ...
Other chicks only get catty if you're a hottie, are you a hottie?
Yes, yes I am....
Yes, yes I am.
Cool! what you up to? ha ha....
Cool! what you up to? ha ha.
Hey watch it Heather you bitch, ...
Hey watch it Heather you bitch, Gatman's with me!
Oops quick rephrase, one catty girl. ...
Oops quick rephrase, one catty girl. Three years though, not bad odds.
Sorry gatman, unavailable, plus *coff* I'd really rather not cross rattlesnake. That's one awesome (and slightly scary) MPD case.
You've once again hit the nail on the ...
You've once again hit the nail on the head with that post Heather. I have yet to experience this wanky Auckland scene and I'm a regular visitor to KA, Odeon, Edens, Bollix etc.
The reality is that Wellingtonians often exhibit a similar chip on the shoulder attitude towards Auckland that we as NZers feel towards Australia.
I'm a born and bred Wellingtonian and it never ceases to amaze me that whenever visiting Wellington, a city by the way that I still love, I always cop the boring old Ork Dork quips with depressing regularity.
This is not in general a 2-way street - Aucklanders in my experience don't look down on other parts of the country in the same way that the rest of the country views Auckland.
Classic example of this behaviour - Carlos Spencer gets booed at Jade Stadium, Merthens cheered on as a replacement during All Black trials at Eden Park.
I'd been hearing people talk about a ...
I'd been hearing people talk about a lot of new bands emerging out of Welli at the moment - is this right? Just wondered whether there was a new 'scene' emerging from out there - the kiwi band scene has pretty much been ruled by Akld bands it seems?
basically what Kirk said before, about ...
basically what Kirk said before, about the fact that music media is based in auckland generally and so an auckland-centric outlook naturally prevails. And the fact that auckland has the biggest population - it could be said there's more of everything there.
But, all provincial bias aside, I'd says that perhaps the greatest concentration of scenes and bands and artists, patricularly the indie variety, has been sprouting out of wellington in the past few years.
Definitely on a per-head basis, wgtn is fucken packed with music acts forming.
but if you're asking about a "scene" ...
but if you're asking about a "scene" as in cliques and wearing the right clothes and sounding like the right bands, I think it exists everywhere. That's what it's all about for many of you, right?
hehe its nice to have you back in the ...
hehe its nice to have you back in the NZM.com house...
i'm considering buying some tight black jeans and heavy black eyeliner and some fuck off pointy boots especially to wear to rock gigs. So the kids don't look at me like "you should be at a drum n bass gig...." or something.
//some fuck off pointy boots what's ...
//some fuck off pointy boots
what's with the pointy boots thing anyway??? i can never work out why every second music fan wants to look like blackadder...
dude, if you don't "get" the pointy ...
dude, if you don't "get" the pointy boot thing then you're way too uncool to hang out with this posse. you should be at a drum n bass gig.
no you're right.. i'm just jealous ...
no you're right.. i'm just jealous of people who can actually walk in heels...
and EZ rollers sits right next to the Earlies in my CD collection and i'm not insecure about that. Its OKAY to like drum n bass.
and you're also right about wellington bitching about auckland more than vice versa. its true. hey, Some of my best friends are aucklanders. kind of. well, not by breeding.
IMHO: Wellington has slowly ...
IMHO:
Wellington has slowly recovered from being Govt town and creatively caught up with the likes of Dunedin, Auckland and Chch in about 1989. We then had a good few magic years: with Shihad, HLAH, Lambs, Short, Bilge, then: the dub scene mid nineties, end of nineties: a little rock revival with Cassette, TLBT, 'staple, and now the big roots/dub explosion and the minor indie revival.
Overall we do OK. All bands tour nationally after a while so every thing is connected and regions don't compete on any level. Media and industry is Auckland based but not biased (except for Rip It Up who now suck advertorial dick).
I'm all for looking after the local 'hood but fuck this us vs them thing. If there is a 'scene' in Wgtn I'm moving out. The best part of Welly is under no-scene rules anything can happen and it could be right now. I once heard one pillock made a "chart" of the scene. Boo this.