Which guitar should I get?

Looking to start playing the guitar.
What advice can you guys give me? Which guitars are good to begin with? Where can I get decent cheap guitars in Auckland?
The Wickerman

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Get an ESP, if not the best they are one of the best. If money is a problem, get an Ibanez, they are decent quality for cheap. Dont get the cheapest, you will later regret it. Make sure the guitar has good pickups most of all (dont get single-coils, I recomend EMG pickups).

If you can, get a 7-string.

// If you can, get a 7-string.

dude, hes wanting to learn to play, not neccessarily learn to play like John Petrucci ...

Have a look on trade me, thats probably the best place to pick up a cheap guitar. As for what type of brand I'd look for something either by Ibanez, Epiphone or Fender (Japanese, Mexican or Squire).

Stay away from the really cheap stuff like Ashton and Maxine because if you get a guitar thats unplayable it'll be harder for you to learn and harder to motivate yourself to pick up your guitar and practice.

For pickups theres nothing wrong with single coils, it just comes down to preference - the best option for yourself would probably to get a guitar with both options on it - an Ibanez or Squire made HSS Strat (humbucker, single coil, single coil). You don't need to worry about the quality of the pickups too much because as long as the neck is straight and plays nice you can always upgrade pickups later at not too great a cost.

7 string? hahaah not really for beginners considering, he wont be tunning down much or anything, 7 string is totally unneccessary

Epiphone are good Either Les Paul or SG, either a special ( if you want the cheaper option) or anything else,

Squire are good too, teles and strats are a good cheap option,

mind you alot will rely on the sound your amp produces and actaully how good you are at palying the thing,

I would start on an acoustic, to strenghten your fingers etc, and learn scales to get speed and co ordination going, then move to an electric that way its alot easier, but thats just what I did, no rules saying you have to or anything

If you can, try for a les paul shape - Epiphone or Tokai or something - Because they have a tendancy to hold tune better. Don't touch cheap Ibanez guitars because their necks have a terrible tendancy to buckle and banana. Most of my pupils who have had squires have never had any problems with those. ESP's are cool if you don't want tone - just metal distortion (same goes for EMG pickups) I only use mine when we are playing a heavy song that has no clean part.

At all costs - Avoid a guitar that has a FLoyd Rose Bridge - Those things will cause you nothing but trouble.

It all really depends on what sound you want; If you want rock or metal - try and find a guitar that has humbucking pickups - If you want something a little less heavy, go for single coil pickups

If I had to pick some starter guitars I would go for
-Sguire
- Les Paul
- Washburn

something you should consider is buying one off the internet. Sites like www.music123.com have outlet stores for clearance items and you can actually find some fantastic guitars at rediculously cheap prices - Plus you can get a lot of stuff that the Rockshop and Musicworks don't stock

Anyway - just some food for thought
Goodluck

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Only problem is music123.com isnt allowed to export certain guitar brands internationally

Any one have an ESP M50, if so are they any good?

I can't believe nobody asked him what style of music he plays. Honestly Grim, an ESP is good for heavy metal and that's it. They're utter shit for anything else.

Best advice is ask a friend who has played guitar for at least four or five years to come with you to a music shop and help you find what you like. Get him/her to play some of the music you like on lots of different guitars, and discuss what he/she thinks of each FOR THAT STYLE. Bear in mind that a guitar designed to play heavy metal (ESP being #1 metal guitar) will sound like CRAP doing blues or indie strumming stuff. similarly, a Fender Strat, the standard for things like blues, country, funk and mainstream pop/rock (I'm thinking like Matchbox 20, Maroon Five etc) can't get a decent metal crunch. As a beginner, your ears won't be able to really differentiate what is "good" and what is "bad" beyond the blatantly obvious stuff, so get someone you trust, with lots of experience, to help you choose, and explain along the way. You'll learn what to listen for.

Play as many guitars as you can be bothered with, in lots of different price ranges, to understand what it is you're after. Once you've narrowed it down to two or three guitars that you really like, within your budget, try playing the same thing on each one. Maybe play a few chords or a riff or something. How does it feel? How does it feel to slide your hand up and down the neck? It is easier to play chords on one than the others? A good rule of thumb is the easier it is play, the better the design and the better it has been set up. It's the shop's responsibility to make sure the guitar has fairly fresh strings, is in tune and has been set up properly - if it isn't, it could make you think the guitar is crap, when it isn't. These are things that an experienced player knows, and he/she will help you avoid the pitfalls. DON'T listen to the salesman - he (its almost always a he) will say whatever it takes to get you to buy - those cheap guitars (i.e. less than $500) are cheap for a reason. They're shit. He'll tell you all sorts of stuff about how it's made to US standards (in Korea) and how the American luthier goes to Korea once a month and gives a seminar or whatever. Just smile and nod then ask your friend. The salesman will probably be a little overweight, smell a bit sweaty and have bad facial hair. Often he'll get hold of the guitar and shred the balls off it, to impress you. Smile. Nod. Tell him he's awesome so he can indulge in a little false modesty.

Better yet, ask a teacher to accompany you to the shop (note hilarious music pun) to help you choose. Most of us have at some stage bought a piece of crap because we didn't know any beter, and will happily help less experienced friends avoid the same mistake.

Here's a quick run down of the most popular models. Purely my opinion, of course....:

Gibson Les Paul: Labour
Best all rounder, hands down. You wanna rock? Treble pickup. Something clean, maybe some RHCP or jazz? Bridge pickup. Something in between? Two seperate volume knobs means you can blend the two. what else do you want? I am a Les Paul owner, and I LOVE them. However, heinously expensive - get a second hand one off trademe if you're going to get one. oh and play it first - sometimes they are absolute pigs.

Fender Stratocaster: National
Another good all rounder. More known for clean or breaking up (overdriven) sounds than full on hard rock distortion. Good if you're doing a lot of chordal (strumming) playing, as opposed to mainly rocking out.

From here on in, I'll stick with just the brand overall, rather than the models.

Epiphone: Greens
Essentially a budget Gibson. Epiphone make very good guitars for the money, and play lots of them - you'll often find one in about ten that really kicks the ass out of the others. Maybe they do that on purpose....

Washburn: United Future
Very good value. the hollow body Washburns are really excellent, and only cost about $1200 new. Bargain. I'd buy one if I needed a hollow body. Their other guitars are usually pretty good too.

Samick/JD borthers/Ashton: Christian Heritage
Yes, Christian Heritage. Do you want me to go into details? No I didn't think so. Just awful. Ashton would be Graham Capill specifically. Horrid.

Langcaster: Independant
Fucking unreal guitars. Made in NZ. Expensive as hell, but truly amazing - I played one of the Telecasters Jo Lang makes, and it smokes a real Tele - tone to burn, sustains for days, plays like a dream. Awesome instruments. Worth the dough.

Hope it helps.

Next time : Amps, as represented by cities.

To answer the question which was never asked: Heavy Metal

BC Rich Mockingbird.

//To answer the question which was never asked: Heavy Metal

ew!

Heavy metal. Ok. Just get the biggest, ugliest motherfuckin guitar in the shop, put EMGs in it and you can't go wrong. It'll scream like a banshee and wail like a Russian baby.

Thats all nice and well, except for that fact that I am originally Russia...

What is it with Russians and metal? Must be something in the vodka.

Yep, its all about vodka, communism and wailing :P

Hehe, I'm Russian to

where, the shops, the toilet where are you Russian to .. ??

Haha, what a cheesy joke

:-) .. it was all I could think of, alittle hung over so brains even worst state than it normally is ..

on guitars i play a mixture of punk, metal, indie, whatever (mostly noodling about, my main music love is computers) , i brought a semi-cheap ibanez around 2 years ago - 300 bucks second hand from cashies . it sounds fantastic, especially for nasty metally stuff, haven't had any problems with neck bending or other build defects, i think ibanez are are a good balance between quality and 'name' - you tend to pay a premium for brands like gibson - they are good guitars, but the extra price is hard to justify, perhaps when you have learnt for a year or 2 and really know what you want in a guitar, then you buy a nice expensive gibson or whatever.

on a side note, buy some decent cables - they do make a big difference.

Agreed. Those Ibanez 70s Les Paul copies are choice. Definitely better value for money.

My mate has one and it sounds/play fabulous. I think he got it from Mals in Island bay, they're quite big fans of old-school Ibanez stuff there, and usually have a handful of pre-loved Ibanez electrics in stock.
BTW, I can vouch for the strat-copies as well, they sound super-sweet.

Hum... Should I get a 24 fret or a 22 fret??

It really depends on the other features of the guitar you are bying, but if they were two identical guitars, one a 24 fret and one a 22 fret, ofcourse go for the 24. The extra 2 frets come in handy while soloing.

Tough decision. Your future as a heavy metal guitarist hangs in the balance. Should we ask the sorting hat?

mmm... now let me see... long flowing hair, check... long sleeved pantera t-shirt, good, good... satanic tattoos, also very good.... but can he go 'beedlee-beedlee-dee?'... I'm not sure about this, but I'm going to have to say GRIFFENDOR! ...oh, I'm sorry, I meant 24 FRET NECK!