more than once on NZM we have discussed the cost of seeing live music, more often than not in terms of bands selling themselves too cheeply, almost implying we are a shitty local band, you shouldn't spend more than the cost of a jug to see us.
But what about the other end? A few NZ bands are touring the "Town Halls" at the moment and asking a pretty penny for the pleasure of seeing them play........ I can understand $65 for the Finn Brothers but is it just me or is $50 to see a band like Golden Horse just too much?
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When Shihad came out after recording ...
When Shihad came out after recording the Pacifier album, the tickets for their concert was $40, I only paid that becuase I was such a huge Shihad fan. Goldenhorse? tell them their dreamin...
$50 is taking the piss....
$50 is taking the piss.
Aren't Goldenhorse quite a succesful ...
Aren't Goldenhorse quite a succesful home grown Kiwi band .. ?? $50 ( about £20 )sounds abit thou, maybe $40 wouldn't be too bad, I paid about £6 ( about $15 ) I think to see them at the Barfly about 5 weeks ago ! Maybe back home they've got more of a following, if that's the case then good on them for not selling themselves short and charging a reasonable fee to see them .. but $50 ..?? maybe just alittle high ...
it seems alot, but then again i wouldnt ...
it seems alot, but then again i wouldnt watch goldenhorse if you paid me
// good on them for not selling ...
// good on them for not selling themselves short and charging a reasonable fee to see them
And when you factor in the venue ..... Town Halls as opposed to the pub / cub circut...... and people are buying the tickets, Fat Freddy's have sold out most of their tour at $45 a head
I am hugely conflicked about this, part of me thinks more power to bands for having that much faith and it's about time bands started rating themselves, I am still not 100% sure this is about me not being able to afford to spend $50 on a gig
:-) aka ... maybe that could be a ...
:-) aka ... maybe that could be a factor, I know it's the same as me, but like you I'm sure if you can't afford it you just go without .. and I'm with you on the kiwi bands begining to believe in themselves and being able to do bigger gigs at bigger venues and charging more and maybe making a real living out of their music ...
$45 is too much for Fat Freddy's. I'm ...
$45 is too much for Fat Freddy's. I'm pretty sure they were $30 last time, which is a better price.
Well, it all depend on what you deliver ...
Well, it all depend on what you deliver for your $40 doesn't it? Though in a purely business sence you're only charging too much if people aren't willing to pay for it.
Willingness to pay is what it comes ...
Willingness to pay is what it comes down to. I'm currently trying to figure out how to afford $50 plus for Interpol and Roots Manuva, although I think they're reasonably priced for international gigs. I suppose I always look back at how I was willing to pay $85 to see the White Stripes.
The price of 95% of bigger gigs I can ...
The price of 95% of bigger gigs I can understand, but I think Goldenhorse have been consistently overcharging for years.
I paid $15 for Pluto and Goodshirt ...
I paid $15 for Pluto and Goodshirt which was fine, since i was in Welly, and then a couple of months later I had to pay $30 to see Pluto and Goodshirt and Goldenhorse, but we left before Goldenhorse played. I wonder if I could get a half refund....
I've seen goldenhorse live about 3 ...
I've seen goldenhorse live about 3 times and each time they were terrible, hell two of those were free gigs and I still felt ripped off
Do you want us to rise up and have a ...
Do you want us to rise up and have a march of the power and magnitude not seen since "Donna Martin Graduates!" to demand your money back?
Hell yeah !!!!...
Hell yeah !!!!
I've only ever caught Goldenhorse ...
I've only ever caught Goldenhorse three times, twice the first time they were over a few years back, and again at the Barfly in Camden a few weeks ago, they seem to be a good pop rock group with catchy pop songs, harmless music, I haven't any idea how their rise to the one of the top spots in the NZ music came about, but I think a curtain amount of self belief, drive, and hard work and total dedication may play a hand in it, as well as catchy songs and good musicianship .. recipe for success, they've kept plugging themselves and and kept their sights on the horizon, hence I guess their belief in charging, and people willing to pay, the extra bit to see them. The only danger is that they take things alittle to far and begin to think their way above every one else and begin to act like a bunch of twats and primadonnas, always a surefire way to plummett .. old saying .. always be nice on the way up, cause you always see the same people on the way down ... end of the rant, not sure what piont I was making now so will finnish now .. besides I'm just about to book a cab to pick someone up at Heathrow so need to log out for abit.
I was pretty surprised that the recent ...
I was pretty surprised that the recent Shihad shows were $50 per ticket...I'd been paying around $30 the few times i'd seen them before, which i thought was pretty reasonable.
i remember paying $5 to see them in ...
i remember paying $5 to see them in wanganui ..
yeah but they had Cog over from aussie ...
yeah but they had Cog over from aussie - and die!die!die! and kora earned their share too. $50 isnt bad for the show like that..
I know many of you dont rate them as ...
I know many of you dont rate them as musicians but I saw a dvd of blink 182 and it said the tickets to their concert was $35 USD
So converted thats around $ 50 here give or take ( $51.51 according to the curretnn exchange rates on anz's website), and goldenhorse are charging $50, yet they are no where near Blink 182 in terms of success, and status etc ( excluding the many opinions on musical talent or lack there of)
Steriogram, 48 may and Good night nurse tickets were 30 or 35 bucks I think, and thats for 3 bands, i think someone needs to tell Goldenhorse to wake up.
But BDO destorys all other concerts when comparing price of tickets to the number of bands.
Lots of bands at the BDO only play half ...
Lots of bands at the BDO only play half hour sets. If you're going just for one or two bands, you don't get your money's worth.
Goldenhorse have a much older audience then Blink182, so their audience can afford to pay more for their tickets.
//Goldenhorse have a much older ...
//Goldenhorse have a much older audience then Blink182, so their audience can afford to pay more for their tickets...
Yes but the question is 'should they have too?' Are Goldenhorse exploiting the fact that their fan base are more fiscally fluid and if they are is it fair on the fans?
I think $40 is about bang on for an ...
I think $40 is about bang on for an "A-list" NZ act.
Any more than that and those support acts better be mint and being paid well.
//Lots of bands at the BDO only play ...
//Lots of bands at the BDO only play half hour sets. If you're going just for one or two bands, you don't get your money's worth.
Agreed, but sometimes its the bands you dont buy the ticket for that make it worth while.
// If you're going just for one or two ...
// If you're going just for one or two bands, you don't get your money's worth.
fair enough; if you're only going for one or two bands you should stick to side shows. i agree with dan. i think that bdo is a sum greater than its parts.
this years bdo was worth it just for ...
this years bdo was worth it just for the amusement given by the slipknot fans . . . .
If i hadnt had glandular fever I would ...
If i hadnt had glandular fever I would have gone, the curiousity factor of seeing slipknot was very strong
No matter who you are, be it Shihad or ...
No matter who you are, be it Shihad or Goldenhorse or the Finns e.t.c, when you play at a Town Hall type venue you still have a truck or two full of gear, 8-12 local grunts to unload the truck and set up the stage, 2-3 riggers, about 5 guys that go with the PA and about 3 with the lights, security, catering, venue hire, advertising e.t.c.
All of this is part of the ticket price.
So maybe, if you don't want to pay $50 for a band, go see them when they're still playing at the pub for $10.
I was gonna say something along those ...
I was gonna say something along those lines to balance out my 'taking the piss' comment- I have never seen Goldenhorse, let alone this 'town hall' tour, so $50.00 might actually be a real bargain depending on what kind of a production you're getting.
If it was $50 to go see them at the local converted karaoke bar, then that's a NO from me. But there's no question that if you're getting good production, they've booked a town hall, and more importantly that you're a FAN, then parting with $50 is an easier decision to make...
I've just been to a runthrough of the ...
I've just been to a runthrough of the Breaks Co-op set before they go out on the road with Goldenhorse - and I'd say your $50 will be well spent. I'm not certain about other bands, but I wouldn't think that in this case it's Goldenhorse deciding the ticket price, but the promotions people.
okay, didn't realise Breaks- co-op ...
okay, didn't realise Breaks- co-op were supporting, guess it's maybe a fair price for two bands, and hopefully a great show too ...
and when you factor who Breaks-Co have ...
and when you factor who Breaks-Co have hired to play in the band......... it was them (as in the session players) I was actually wanting to see
Sounds good .. don't know too much ...
Sounds good .. don't know too much about the NZ session playing scene, but guess there's a whole heap of talent out there which could form a great tight band .. should be a good show
they have got a goodshirt, a trinity ...
they have got a goodshirt, a trinity root and someone else of note that i can't quite remember
I Liked trinity roots shame they're ...
I Liked trinity roots shame they're not around anymore, I've heard alittle goodshirt on their website .. it that still going ..?? they sounded okay too .. so should be a great band ..
Aka, the drummer is a guy called Tom - ...
Aka, the drummer is a guy called Tom - plays for SJD and other things; Rio from Trinity Roots on guitar; and Rodney from Goodshirt on guitar, and mandolin. They are bloody good, and combined with Andy Lovegrove's divine voice........momma mia!
Breaks Co-op & Goldenhorse at a nice ...
Breaks Co-op & Goldenhorse at a nice venue sounds like it would cost about $50.
This thread is reminding me of Statler ...
This thread is reminding me of Statler and Waldorf from The Muppet Show...
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That was terrible... no it wasn't ...
That was terrible... no it wasn't terrible, but certainly below average... yes, they weren't bad really, not bad at all... they were ok actually, better than most... they were great! BRAVO! BRAVO!
Why do we always come here? I guess ...
Why do we always come here?
I guess we'll never know.
It's like some kind of torture to have to watch the show (cue: drum solo from Animal)...
They're still around....
They're still around.
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Last time I saw Goldenhorse (it was the ...
Last time I saw Goldenhorse (it was the last time and will remain the last time) I think I paid about 20-25 bucks and I got so fucking bored I left half way through the set.
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Golden Horse are not a musical ...
Golden Horse are not a musical education charity designed to bring music to the masses. They are a professional music group. If their audience is prepared to pay $50 for tickets, then I don't see why they shouldn't charge that much.
I think you have to think about the ...
I think you have to think about the shows cost. its not cheap to put on a show . so if you having to bring everything like p.a and lighting etc plus venue hire. basiclly the bigger the band the bigger the costs can be involed. I reckon $40.00 is hitting the limit. I would pay 30-40 to go to the paramount for a show. but maybe not to indigo for example to see a kiwi act.
I think think the muppets comment said ...
I think think the muppets comment said it all. God bless the muppets.
I was given some feed back on this ...
I was given some feed back on this weekends show in Nelson
Breaks Co-op, good like watching a very professional jam session
Golden Horse, looked like they bored and annoyed, felt as if they had had a fight before going on stage, and just wanted to get the gig over so they could get back to the argument.
I was also told that people were walking out and only a handful remained for the "encore"...
what a shame, I would have perfured to be pissed of at not going to a good "concert" than this weird gloaty feeling I have now.
I am absolutly sure some NZ bands are ...
I am absolutly sure some NZ bands are worth the money, but I think some bands just need to be careful and be ready to give vaule for money.
You know, I'm almost in favour of all ...
You know, I'm almost in favour of all gigs being at least $5 more so that people who go will appreciate it more and SHUT THE FUCK UP when they're up on the dance floor and the band is playing. Aaaaaaaaaargh I hate you talking people.
Yup nothing more gutting than having ...
Yup nothing more gutting than having the natter louder than the band, had this happen with trinity roots when they played Little Things.
but the worst, the absolute worst, was an gig in a cafe, a yell from the back........." turn it down, we are trying to talk"