Listen to the new Coldplay album

Stream the entire Coldplay album X&Y (and read reasons as to why you shouldn't buy it) via this link...

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//(and read reasons as to why you shouldn't buy it)

Everyone's a hypocrite in this world

You're a quick reader. That was quite a long ramble on the link Noizy posted.

Yeah...

As many older members of the board will know, I was very much into Coldplay after Parachutes came out. I have both of Coldplay's previous albums, but I hardly play them anymore now. Sure, Yellow, and to a lesser extent Don't Panic, are classic pop songs, but the albums got banal after a while: all "oh-so-sincere" balladry and the odd soft-loud rocker - nothing too adventurous, and it gets old after a while. Chris Martin trying to model himself as a public figure and cause-spokesman is also getting on my nerves.

what a speal.

i love that "coldplay is music for bed wetters" quote.

I think you'll find that Chris is first and foremost a singer and song writer, the fact him and the band are signed to EMI is incidental, it's the corporation who have to do the marketing and selling of the music Chris and the guys make that music, to say chris needs to be "set free" is alittle ridiculous I think the guys have enough freedom. I get the feeling that if the writer of that artical was signed to EMI and getting the returns that coldplay are getting through the sales of their music, he'd be singing .. or writing at least ... a different tune and not wishing to be "set free" from the constictions of the record company ..

if being signed to EMI and particularly Parlophone is incindental, then why did Chris Martin's dad fork out hundreds of thousands of pounds to get them signed to this label to start with? it's like booking into the ritz then complaining about the room service.

Enlighten me .. how did he go about it ..??

i'm not exactly sure, you said you know him, maybe you should ask, probably better to buy him a couple of drinks first, and get him talking about how he happened to get a record deal, and how much dad helped him. there's nothing sinister meant by this, just know there was a reasonably sizeable parental investment at around that point in his/their career, also he could have conveniently forgotten, but he's pretty straight up, so if you get him talking on the topic there's a 50/50 he'll tell you.

May just do that, I drink with Guy sometimes, so may ask him the behind the scenes bit ..

//it's like booking into the ritz then complaining about the room service.

If you're paying for the Ritz, you damn well deserve good room service! If you book into a backpacker's and then complain about the room service, that's different.

the ritz is an adequate example. seeing that EMI is the greatest british label ever, and after booking a room, they've been told that they are solely respnsible for the livlihoods of all the employees. that's pretty poor service from the label who bought us the the beatles.

I think you'll find EMI won't vanish from the face of the earth if coldplay bum out .. maybe they'll shead a few hopeless A&R types and lower down the run people, maybe a board member or two, but EMI will live I'm sure.

yeah, i'm only going on all the hype in the media recently about coldplay being their last hope. i would've thought they could surivive solely on continuing sales of the beatles records.

Yeah, that they can do .. as good as coldplay are, they're along way off being anywhere near worth what the beatles are to EMI.

Anything from gwenith on it?

Wouldn't that be something:

"Coldplay, [now in big lettering]featuring Gweneth Paltrow"

A guaranteed million-seller. Or something...

You fuckin knows it!

Know what? "I've found my soldier girl"?

I was asking for it...

I found my soldierboy..

aww

He's so far away.. He makes my head.. Spin around!!

No victims here- at this sort of level, Coldplay/Chris Martin can't plead ignorance- at least, I'm not convinced. It's all lost on Coldplay's target market anyway- well researched and chart plotted by EMI's highly qualified marketing department.
:"The cream, my friends, always rises to the top eventually" If Coldplay really believed they were 'cream' they wouldn't have bent over for EMI in the first place.
Whatever Chris Martin/anyone else has to say about it is kinda perfunctory... most consumers will respond quite predictably to EMI's promotional campaign & buy the product.

So if the cream always rises to the top, how high would it have risen without bending over for EMI ..? would they still be a world wide success without other people pulling strings behind the scenes or should they have done everything on their own maybe, and be as successfull as millions of other doing just that ..??

Well that's the thing isn't it- good songs don't circulate themselves around the world. Lots of bands choose to retain control of when they record/how they are marketed/blah blah, but Coldplay passed that off. They probably weren't expecting such 'make or break' pressure from the label, but perhaps they didn't grasp the responsibility they were passing off too, or maybe it just wasn't explained to them. I dunno. Like I say, when you're talking about multi-million dollar contracts there shouldn't be any room for misinterpretation (especially on the part of the label), so I think it's a little trite for Chris Martin to complain about pressure, not with a personal fortune of however-many-millions of pounds to keep him going.
That said, I like the new album.

Okay good point, but how many ( unsigned ) bands do you know that keep " total control" of where, how and when they record and still come out smelling of roses, most of them fall apart after a time cause no one takes control of things and people don't turn up for practice or can't make a gig etc, or if they do and one member starts driving things along then how many times do "artist differences" get in the way ? okay things like that happen to signed bands too, but as they have more to lose they tend to work things out, someone else can step in to defuse a situation sometimes who's out of the band but still have the bands and record companies intrests at heart, and if they can't get things sorted they get dropped, pressure yes, but only cause they now stand to lose aomething alittle more than a pub gig, they're in the grown up world of music, pressure = responsibility I guess.

oh yeah, I haven't heard too much of the new album, but word has it that it's not as good as the last two, I know you like it, but do you think it's a strong as the other two ..??

Well, I'll admit it doesn't have the high-impact tacks ala Rush Of Blood or Parachutes, but there's a more relaxed vibe to the sound of their new record which I actually really like- I like that Chris is playing more keys on this one, it really fills the sound out. Lush.
One man's 'lush' is another man's 'wussy sounding'...

Let's just hope there more to the record than lushness, as lush production can often mask rather ordinary songs - just ask Richard Ashcroft and Spiritualized...

Now if you want lush, and well-written songs to boot, you can't go wrong with something like Pet Sounds.

When I was 12 I made a chocolate bar for a home economics project that I called 'lush'- chocolate with rice bubbles and a runny caramel centre... mmmmm... ever since then I have loved using the word 'lush' and instantly associate it with smooth rich chocolatey goodness... /left field

Pet sounds .. yeah .. new coldplay, maybe the lush sound's down to Danton's input ...

We shouldn't hold the fact that he worked with The Feelers against him, he's worked with a ton of other wussy- er... 'lush' rock bands... ;-)

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lol .. yeah Dantons worked with a few dodgey bands .. the first time he came here was with .. I think echo belly with Gil norton, or maybe it was with cast with Gil, can't really remember, he's been back a few times, I've got CCTV footage of him jumping over our gate, cheeky bugger .. very, very nice guy though. I'm on that website .. I remember the day Mike came into film and came out of the hall with the bloody camera, I'm not photogenic that's for sure so Hollywood won't be calling either ..!!! and the sound on it .. I sound like Donald duck with a bad kiwi accent ..!

Chris Martin is a beautiful human being and I wish I was gwyneth.

I can say that both are very nice down to earth people, only meet gwenth a couple of times though, and she was pregnant at the time, but Chris I know through work and he is alittle hyper and always on the go :-) but he's a real nice bloke.

Geez, Bollinger just savaged the album on this week's Sampler. Now I don't normally agree with Nick, but I found myself nodding at what he had to say.

He ended his review with something to the effect of "I appreciate that Coldplay suffered a lot in the making of this album, but I don't know why I should suffer listening to it" - it was the nastiest thing I've ever heard him say...

Then again, he wasn't too keen on A Rush of Blood... either, and this was after almost every rock critic hailing it as the best British rock album since OK Computer.

Each to his own...

Bollinger has a fairly sly way of being critical. His review of Oasis today started out positive, but he eventually laid the smackdown "what starts off as sounding like earnest homage [to their influences] ends up like pure laziness" or something to that effect.

//Bollinger has a fairly sly way of being critical.

Especially when his critiques are delivered in that nasal monotone of his...