Haha, I like how the guy that proposed the theory is all pissy about what bitches girls are because of their two-ladder shag/just-good-friend system. But it's the guys that only want to shag! How lame is that?
I resent his implication that girls are primarily interested in money and power; I think the attraction factor (looks/novelty/charisma/unavailability) is at least 65%; money and power 30%.
But surely even if Trumpy (for instance) scores a near perfect 29 on money and power, he's going to score practically zero on everything else (I'm just going off what girls have told me). So how does he get a fuck?
I guess the ratio is just different in different people/in America....
I think the physical attraction thing includes an element of sexual charisma (not strictly associated with looks) that this guy hasn't really mentioned, or perhaps he'd view it as a form of power. I reckon if a girl had the choice between good ol' stroppy Trump (whose fortune is occasionally rumoured to be less than secure), and a vapid snivelling doormat with more money than the Sultan of Brunei, they'd still go for Trump.
True. But please agree with me on this point: there is always someone out there desperate enough to submit themselves to the most disgusting rich man. Or is this just hegemonic society corrupting my ideology? WOMEN MUST ALL SUBMIT THEMSELVES TO THE DOLLAR the media the corporations say. ooh I feel like rope.
Probably, you're most likely right about different girls living by different ratios. By my own experience, I value money and power extremely low, and tend to go for the attraction factor - looks, unavailability and a mixture of novelty and charisma that usually manifests as unashamed cuntiness.
That's truly unfortunate Heather. Unless you enjoy being treated badly, you masochistic cutie you.
If I was going to waste time on a Saturday night (which I am because as I type....a little essay waits) I'd estimate ratio (with slightly altered variables) to be 60% looks, 30% personality, 4% argumentative factor, that is, the more the better, 2% enjoys bad puns, 2% brings me food, 1% power/money and 1% hot siblings.
Yeah, it's not that uncommon; hence "nice guys finish last". Actually, it's my subconscious way of avoiding the fuss and bother of relationships - the guys on my would-shag ladder are (generally) either unavailable, or I don't want them around anyway.
It's an insurance policy. Just in case I meet a girl version of your wankers. "Yeah well I fucked your sister" or if it really requires a 'stop the dinner party' moment "yeah well I fucked your brother"
Sorry to go on about this, but it could actually be quite an interesting mathematical derivation - because to be one of the hottest girls, the one in question must have a sparkling personality - yet a really bad showing in the 30% can negatively affect the 60% looks component as well.
I'll see if I can find it - it's from about 4 years ago and from a different site (will have too trawl through the archives to find it)... errr.... after I finish work today...
yep women are into those superficial things, even more so than men, cause they're more picky, while guys can find a vairety of women attractive. Basically the more feminine like and prety a guy is , the more attractive he will be to women. Funny that, the more masculine physical traits (faical hair, strong features, 'ruggednes') actually put women off. Its a if women are latent lesbians looking for the most femine like, young boy looking guys.
there are women out there who adore the rugged Magnum PI/Mel Gibson thing. there are billion of beefcake posters on billions of walls out there. conversely, there are billions of Orlando Bloom posters too, but we don't all like him.
//yep women are into those superficial things, even more so than men, cause they're more picky, while guys can find a vairety of women attractive.
I don't align being more picky with being more superficial. In fact, I don't think superficial is even accurate. If I'm trying for a relationship, I'd like to think I'll get a bit more out of it than having to wake up every morning to an ugly boring nob with no money that moans all the time.
sure women aren't all the same, but the idea that they don't judge on looks but on the 'whole package' (he he 'package') is bullshit. You said you don't want to wake up to someone ugly, so there it is, you can be intersting, selfless, thoughtfull, funny etc, but it's all for nothing.....cause of ugliness. Imagine if a guy came out and said that.
rdor, sometimes it seems that you writing about women is akin to me writing about the flora and fauna of the Mongolian desert, in that it is something I really know nothing about, so I'd look pretty stupid if I did. I guess the difference is that the flora and fauna isn't about to shout me down.
//i like Sean, he rocks. kinda self-aware and slightly bemused/amused.
Fuck yeah Sean is the man. Bemused totally, "My name is Pussy Galore" "I musht be dreaming" < best movie line ever, mostly due to delivery from smirking sean
//You said you don't want to wake up to someone ugly, so there it is, you can be intersting, selfless, thoughtfull, funny etc, but it's all for nothing.....cause of ugliness. Imagine if a guy came out and said that.
Wrong. I said I don't want to wake up to an ugly boring nob with no money that moans all the time. You can't see the difference? Or do you automatically assume that all ugly people are boring nobs with no money that moan all the time?
No, I'm not having any sex right now. But y'know, if you go with the ole "time is money" saying, I guess it works out about right. Or you could look at the money part as being the investment in liquor, cleavage tops, taxis, birth control, post drinking Wendy's, counselling, phone bills.....
You know, the talking, the batting your eyelashes and laughing at their jokes and then eventually having to say "look, are we fucking or not?" because they missed the subtleness.
//I said I don't want to wake up to an ugly boring nob with no money that moans all the time. You can't see the difference? Or do you automatically assume that all ugly people are boring nobs with no money that moan all the time?//
no I think you do, otherwise you wouldn't have included the word ugly at the beginning of that.
So you think that by virtue of being a girl, if a sweet loving fascinating guy came along tomorrow I would turn up my nose at him because he wasn't pretty enough? That's an incredibly absurd (and yes, offensive) character judgement, given you've never even met me or any of my past beaus.
I'm surprised you've had relationships at all actually, from what I gathered I thought you were a nice-to-everyone but repressed and uncomfortable-letting-anyone-close sort. But then I'm an idiot.
Holy crap, did you just call Heather repressed? ??????
rdor, it's been said before, and so I'll gleefully say it again - it seems that you have something of a bee in your bonnet about girls judging you because you are not aesthetically pleasing, but seriously man, I have no idea what you look like and I think you're fucking ugly - and that's based entirely on your online personality. It's not us, it's you.
//I'm surprised you've had relationships at all actually, from what I gathered I thought you were a nice-to-everyone but repressed and uncomfortable-letting-anyone-close sort. But then I'm an idiot.
Wow, actually, that's pretty much spot-on, although it's partly because of the relationships / crushes / thinking-maybe-this-time-it's-worth-taking-a-chance-and-being-shot-down rather than despite them. I confess every new bad experience tends to taint the next one as well. I don't think I'm very good at relationships at all, actually. Hence my subconscious go-for-the-cunt mentality. Dang, now I think of it, I really suck!
...all that said, I have to say my most recent boyfriend was/is really really lovely. I think that relationship kind of died a natural death because it was just too nice and easy.
..actually, that's not really true. It lasted as long as it did because it was nice and easy. Died a natural death for other reasons... just for the record... blah blah blah...probably he wasn't pretty enough. :P
ahh heather, nice girls always like bastards who treat them like shit. Cause secretely, you must hate, yes you do. Hence the only guys you can stand (and respect) enough to get it on with are the ones who treat others like dog poo. I've had female friends who were like that, nice to their friends, but the boyfriend was always a total asshole. And they would go from one creep to the next.
Well, not quite. Like I said I think I'm just trying to avoid relationships altogether. Also, as far as the women you're talking about, I think florence nightingale syndrome has a lot to answer for.
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This is hilarious!! But surprisingly ...
This is hilarious!! But surprisingly true!
Haha, I like how the guy that proposed ...
Haha, I like how the guy that proposed the theory is all pissy about what bitches girls are because of their two-ladder shag/just-good-friend system. But it's the guys that only want to shag! How lame is that?
I resent his implication that girls are primarily interested in money and power; I think the attraction factor (looks/novelty/charisma/unavailability) is at least 65%; money and power 30%.
But surely even if Trumpy (for ...
But surely even if Trumpy (for instance) scores a near perfect 29 on money and power, he's going to score practically zero on everything else (I'm just going off what girls have told me). So how does he get a fuck?
I guess the ratio is just different in different people/in America....
I think the physical attraction thing ...
I think the physical attraction thing includes an element of sexual charisma (not strictly associated with looks) that this guy hasn't really mentioned, or perhaps he'd view it as a form of power. I reckon if a girl had the choice between good ol' stroppy Trump (whose fortune is occasionally rumoured to be less than secure), and a vapid snivelling doormat with more money than the Sultan of Brunei, they'd still go for Trump.
True. But please agree with me on this ...
True. But please agree with me on this point: there is always someone out there desperate enough to submit themselves to the most disgusting rich man. Or is this just hegemonic society corrupting my ideology? WOMEN MUST ALL SUBMIT THEMSELVES TO THE DOLLAR the media the corporations say. ooh I feel like rope.
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Probably, you're most likely right ...
Probably, you're most likely right about different girls living by different ratios. By my own experience, I value money and power extremely low, and tend to go for the attraction factor - looks, unavailability and a mixture of novelty and charisma that usually manifests as unashamed cuntiness.
That's truly unfortunate Heather. ...
That's truly unfortunate Heather. Unless you enjoy being treated badly, you masochistic cutie you.
If I was going to waste time on a Saturday night (which I am because as I type....a little essay waits) I'd estimate ratio (with slightly altered variables) to be 60% looks, 30% personality, 4% argumentative factor, that is, the more the better, 2% enjoys bad puns, 2% brings me food, 1% power/money and 1% hot siblings.
Yeah, it's not that uncommon; hence ...
Yeah, it's not that uncommon; hence "nice guys finish last". Actually, it's my subconscious way of avoiding the fuss and bother of relationships - the guys on my would-shag ladder are (generally) either unavailable, or I don't want them around anyway.
...hot siblings??
It's an insurance policy. Just in case ...
It's an insurance policy. Just in case I meet a girl version of your wankers. "Yeah well I fucked your sister" or if it really requires a 'stop the dinner party' moment "yeah well I fucked your brother"
//60% looks, 30% personality Sorry ...
//60% looks, 30% personality
Sorry to go on about this, but it could actually be quite an interesting mathematical derivation - because to be one of the hottest girls, the one in question must have a sparkling personality - yet a really bad showing in the 30% can negatively affect the 60% looks component as well.
Chicks likes assholes :) "shut the fuck ...
Chicks likes assholes :) "shut the fuck up bitch!" :P
//Cool Scott, fish it out, I'm ...
//Cool Scott, fish it out, I'm interested.
I'll see if I can find it - it's from about 4 years ago and from a different site (will have too trawl through the archives to find it)... errr.... after I finish work today...
It is an interesting discussion...
//looks/novelty/charisma/unavailability)...
//looks/novelty/charisma/unavailability)//
yep women are into those superficial things, even more so than men, cause they're more picky, while guys can find a vairety of women attractive. Basically the more feminine like and prety a guy is , the more attractive he will be to women. Funny that, the more masculine physical traits (faical hair, strong features, 'ruggednes') actually put women off. Its a if women are latent lesbians looking for the most femine like, young boy looking guys.
//women are latent lesbians looking for ...
//women are latent lesbians looking for the most femine like, young boy looking guys
Nah we just like the young guys because they're more value for money cos you can fuck them three times in a night.
there are women out there who adore the ...
there are women out there who adore the rugged Magnum PI/Mel Gibson thing. there are billion of beefcake posters on billions of walls out there. conversely, there are billions of Orlando Bloom posters too, but we don't all like him.
Shoosh cleanie, don't try and say that ...
Shoosh cleanie, don't try and say that different women have different tastes, because everyone knows we are all exactly the same.
//yep women are into those superficial ...
//yep women are into those superficial things, even more so than men, cause they're more picky, while guys can find a vairety of women attractive.
I don't align being more picky with being more superficial. In fact, I don't think superficial is even accurate. If I'm trying for a relationship, I'd like to think I'll get a bit more out of it than having to wake up every morning to an ugly boring nob with no money that moans all the time.
//Magnum PI/Mel Gibson Don't ...
//Magnum PI/Mel Gibson
Don't forget Mitch Buchanon. Or MacGuyver. Although Mac was a bit more lithe and had the whole slightly troubled thing going on.
// wake up every morning to an ...
// wake up every morning to an ugly//
did I say superficial? No not at all.
sure women aren't all the same, but the idea that they don't judge on looks but on the 'whole package' (he he 'package') is bullshit. You said you don't want to wake up to someone ugly, so there it is, you can be intersting, selfless, thoughtfull, funny etc, but it's all for nothing.....cause of ugliness. Imagine if a guy came out and said that.
rdor, sometimes it seems that you ...
rdor, sometimes it seems that you writing about women is akin to me writing about the flora and fauna of the Mongolian desert, in that it is something I really know nothing about, so I'd look pretty stupid if I did. I guess the difference is that the flora and fauna isn't about to shout me down.
rdor I'm pretty sure I did already say ...
rdor I'm pretty sure I did already say that
//Magnum PI/Mel Gibson Sean Connery ...
//Magnum PI/Mel Gibson
Sean Connery is the archetype i think. i hope. i like Sean, he rocks. kinda self-aware and slightly bemused/amused.
mmm Harrison Ford being the slightly younger american version.
//i like Sean, he rocks. kinda ...
//i like Sean, he rocks. kinda self-aware and slightly bemused/amused.
Fuck yeah Sean is the man. Bemused totally, "My name is Pussy Galore" "I musht be dreaming" < best movie line ever, mostly due to delivery from smirking sean
//You said you don't want to wake up ...
//You said you don't want to wake up to someone ugly, so there it is, you can be intersting, selfless, thoughtfull, funny etc, but it's all for nothing.....cause of ugliness. Imagine if a guy came out and said that.
Wrong. I said I don't want to wake up to an ugly boring nob with no money that moans all the time. You can't see the difference? Or do you automatically assume that all ugly people are boring nobs with no money that moan all the time?
jo //they're more value for money cos ...
jo //they're more value for money cos you can fuck them three times in a night
Joanna, Are you now paying for sex?
//Joanna, Are you now paying for sex? ...
//Joanna, Are you now paying for sex?
No, I'm not having any sex right now. But y'know, if you go with the ole "time is money" saying, I guess it works out about right. Or you could look at the money part as being the investment in liquor, cleavage tops, taxis, birth control, post drinking Wendy's, counselling, phone bills.....
Oh I see, on a "Time & Materials" basis....
Oh I see, on a "Time & Materials" basis.
Or effort....
Or effort.
What effort?...
What effort?
//What effort? You know, the ...
//What effort?
You know, the talking, the batting your eyelashes and laughing at their jokes and then eventually having to say "look, are we fucking or not?" because they missed the subtleness.
Perhaps I should stop being flip right about now.
Yep, thanks for clearing that up....
Yep, thanks for clearing that up.
//I said I don't want to wake up to an ...
//I said I don't want to wake up to an ugly boring nob with no money that moans all the time. You can't see the difference? Or do you automatically assume that all ugly people are boring nobs with no money that moan all the time?//
no I think you do, otherwise you wouldn't have included the word ugly at the beginning of that.
Ahh Joanna, the archtype slapper, bless you
Oh yeah, a slapper is <I>exactly</I> ...
Oh yeah, a slapper is exactly what I am. I do feel blessed, thank you.
So you think that by virtue of being a ...
So you think that by virtue of being a girl, if a sweet loving fascinating guy came along tomorrow I would turn up my nose at him because he wasn't pretty enough? That's an incredibly absurd (and yes, offensive) character judgement, given you've never even met me or any of my past beaus.
I'm surprised you've had ...
I'm surprised you've had relationships at all actually, from what I gathered I thought you were a nice-to-everyone but repressed and uncomfortable-letting-anyone-close sort. But then I'm an idiot.
Bless your little cotton socks
Holy crap, did <I>you</I> just call ...
Holy crap, did you just call Heather repressed? ??????
rdor, it's been said before, and so I'll gleefully say it again - it seems that you have something of a bee in your bonnet about girls judging you because you are not aesthetically pleasing, but seriously man, I have no idea what you look like and I think you're fucking ugly - and that's based entirely on your online personality. It's not us, it's you.
//I'm surprised you've had ...
//I'm surprised you've had relationships at all actually, from what I gathered I thought you were a nice-to-everyone but repressed and uncomfortable-letting-anyone-close sort. But then I'm an idiot.
Wow, actually, that's pretty much spot-on, although it's partly because of the relationships / crushes / thinking-maybe-this-time-it's-worth-taking-a-chance-and-being-shot-down rather than despite them. I confess every new bad experience tends to taint the next one as well. I don't think I'm very good at relationships at all, actually. Hence my subconscious go-for-the-cunt mentality. Dang, now I think of it, I really suck!
...all that said, I have to say my most ...
...all that said, I have to say my most recent boyfriend was/is really really lovely. I think that relationship kind of died a natural death because it was just too nice and easy.
..actually, that's not really true. ...
..actually, that's not really true. It lasted as long as it did because it was nice and easy. Died a natural death for other reasons... just for the record... blah blah blah...probably he wasn't pretty enough. :P
// it's you.// the number of times ...
// it's you.//
the number of times I've heard that.
ahh heather, nice girls always like bastards who treat them like shit. Cause secretely, you must hate, yes you do. Hence the only guys you can stand (and respect) enough to get it on with are the ones who treat others like dog poo. I've had female friends who were like that, nice to their friends, but the boyfriend was always a total asshole. And they would go from one creep to the next.
Well, not quite. Like I said I think ...
Well, not quite. Like I said I think I'm just trying to avoid relationships altogether. Also, as far as the women you're talking about, I think florence nightingale syndrome has a lot to answer for.
...joanna, does that mean that we're ...
...joanna, does that mean that we're not fgonna be buds? slapper was a joke...really...but no like me?
//I think I'm just trying to avoid ...
//I think I'm just trying to avoid relationships altogether.
actually, maybe that's just a cop-out...
ok, someone slap me now and tell me to take my boring self-analysis to blogspot.
Joanna, Heather needs a slap. (:...
Joanna, Heather needs a slap. (:
//Joanna, Heather needs a slap. (: ...
//Joanna, Heather needs a slap. (:
Heather won't let me 'slap' her, I'm not pretty enough!
Do you need a cuddle bitch.? (note: no ...
Do you need a cuddle bitch.? (note: no comma)
I really really do....
I really really do.
you're pretty, easy for you, you ...
you're pretty, easy for you, you don't have to prove anything to anyone
Joanna's pretty what?...
Joanna's pretty what?
Pretty straight up....
Pretty straight up.