John Tamihere - hates Jews, Gays and Women holding high powered positions.
George Hawkins - Keeps denying there aint enough Cops on the beat although the Wgtn Region is dangerously understaffed (I can see people buying Guns to protect themselves from Burglars in the not too distant future).
Do you think these 2 madcap politicians should resign? Do you think Auntie Helen will call a Snap Poll?
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What's a snap poll? Is that where ...
What's a snap poll? Is that where people call you up and ask you if you've got the power, or if you know that rhythm is a dancer?
wahahahah. genius....
wahahahah. genius.
its a sudden election, joanna....
its a sudden election, joanna.
Oh silly me, there I was thinking a ...
Oh silly me, there I was thinking a poll was when you asked people for their opinions (although yes, I suppose that's what an election is too, sort of).
What good would a snap election do Labour right now if they've been getting bad press in the media lately? They're not stupid.
The possibility that if it's bad now, ...
The possibility that if it's bad now, that it might be worse later....
Yeah but I really doubt that it's ...
Yeah but I really doubt that it's going to be. I mean, if they shed Hawkins and Tamihere they get back on track and distance themselves.
I don't think it's too likely. ...
I don't think it's too likely. However, I'm not sure that shedding these two will be easy. At least, i reckon that's the strategy behind the stress leave. Giving tamihere the boot would be like throwing water on a fat fire...
A re-hash of '84 would be pretty funny though. Helen weaving down the corridor, and schlurring "it doeshhnt give my opponensssh mush time either". Especially, followed by her "hur hur hur" laugh from '1990: The Issues', where Helen was always caught smoking, but claiming that it was actually a lollipop or something ...
Yeah, I'd been going to say something ...
Yeah, I'd been going to say something about "she's not going to call an election unless it's a schnapps one" but I didn't.
//..a schnapps one" but I didn't. ...
//..a schnapps one" but I didn't.
it reminds me of the 1984 election - when the then PM Muldoon was pissed off his head on national television saying "there will be an election of July 14".
He doesn't hate jews, he might hate ...
He doesn't hate jews, he might hate women in power though. H's just a macho idiot syaing a whole load of stuff that doesn't really matter. And he's disloyal, so I think he should go, but then that would be hating Maoris wouldn't it?
<shoots rdor in the nose with a pop gun>...
ouch...
ouch
did anyone read about the Police chase ...
did anyone read about the Police chase that involved 3 police cars and the holicopter chasing a guy on a moped??? it ended on Bleakhouse road, after the guy on the scooter reached speeds of 40kpm!!!!!
i dont think its police being understaffed, its more about police being lazy and not wanting to do any hard work,
3 cops and a chopper cahsing a scooter meanwhile you guy an indian guys dairy being robbed by a tonn of kids and police not responding and girls getting raped and police not responding
// girls getting raped and police not ...
// girls getting raped and police not responding
what?
sorry, I mean, can you give some ...
sorry, I mean, can you give some examples of "girls getting raped and police not responding"?
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hmm you know that little case about the ...
hmm you know that little case about the cops sending the taxi (does that count as cops responding or not?), and all the rape cases not being investigated further due to " low police numbers" "low staff numbers" etc
noizy it was an exaggeration to show ...
noizy it was an exaggeration to show how stupid 3 cop cars and a helicopter chasing a dude on a stolen mo ped is
// hmm you know that little case about ...
// hmm you know that little case about the cops sending the taxi
a rape case? I know nothing, feel free to inform me, as I try to inform you...
and dan, there's a difference between 'not responding' and 'not investigating'.
// did anyone read about the Police ...
// did anyone read about the Police chase that involved 3 police cars
// and the holicopter chasing a guy on a moped??? it ended on
// Bleakhouse road, after the guy on the scooter reached speeds of 40kpm!!!!!
what were the circumstances of him being chased in the first place? would the police response be such an issue if he'd just raped someone?
the guy ended up being charged with " ...
the guy ended up being charged with " faling to stop" and "stealing the moped"
the point is, was it worth 3 cop cars and the helicopter??? when im sure there are much worse crimes being commited somewhere out there
Well, it all depends on what the cops ...
Well, it all depends on what the cops would be otherwise doing right at that very minute, doesn't it? The guy on the moped was breaking the law, should the rest of the cops have headed back to the station "just in case" a rape victim comes in? Don't you reckon it's worth nabbing someone that you know for sure has committed a crime, if you have the chance?
I don't know how staff are allocated; I assume that patrols are assigned separately to investigating officers (you know - the ones that are chasing down the rapists based on police reports and forensics and all that kind of evidence that needs lots of analysis), and probably have different skillsets, or at least different levels of experience. If this is correct (and I have no idea really..) then the number of police chasing a moped is going to have very little impact on the number of rape cases under investigation. Also, they have radios. I'm pretty sure that if someone radioed in a "serious domestic situation" in which immediate police involvement would make a difference, then it'd be a no-brainer to pull out one car. It's not like they're boy racers getting their kicks, ignoring "real" crime because they're having too much fun chasing a moped..
New Zealand's "detectives" are part of ...
New Zealand's "detectives" are part of what's called the Criminal Investigation Branch (or CIB). You can generally conveniently pick them by having the word "Detective" in front of their title (e.g., Detective Inspector and Detective Constable). They're very unlikely to have been involved in chasing a moped or doing anything like that, and most likely to not be in chase cars (or even cars with radar detectors etc.) and not necessarily in uniform. The Uniform Branch are the ones likely to be doing the chasing of the moped, and if there was an urgent incident, most likely to be contacted by radio to respond to that.
d'oh...
d'oh
[ http://www.police.govt.nz/service/cib/ ]
the question is Does a guy on a ...
the question is
Does a guy on a moped going around 40ks an hour need 3 cop cars and the helicopter chasing him???
one or two cars maybe but 3 PLUS the ...
one or two cars maybe but 3 PLUS the chopper come on, one guy behind him one guy pull in front of him case closed, he was only doing 40 kph, maybe they were having fun chasing him...
But that's not the question you asked. ...
But that's not the question you asked. Your complaint was that police are chasing someone guilty of a reasonably benign crime, at the expense of other victims of worse crimes.
//3 cops and a chopper cahsing a scooter meanwhile you guy an indian guys dairy being robbed by a tonn of kids and police not responding and girls getting raped and police not responding
I propose that the tradeoff that you suggest does not exist, because as noizy pointed out you seem to be getting "not investigating" confused with "not responding". And if the tradeoff doesn't exist, then does it matter if it takes four cops to safely corner a guy driving a stolen vehicle and trying to outrun the police? What happened? Another criminal got caught, and to my knowledge noone was hurt.
I also imagine it'd be standard procedure to monitor car chases from the air, if it's convenient.
// But that's not the question you ...
// But that's not the question you asked.
indeed.
and dan, I am still waiting for your answer to my query above re: the taxi case...