original, shmor....umm...iginal.....yes....

ok, so am halfway thru writing what quite excitingly seems to be the best song ive ever written, a possible single in fact, (ok this is not bragging, im hardly billlie joe or ed kowalczyck(sp?) in the songwriting department) and i am quite attatched to what i think is a kindy nifty riff.
BUT i dunno if ive heard it before, you know, unconciously 'borrowing' someone elses ideas. posed the question, is it still possible to be original? is it still possible to make a decent song that people dont grudge you for, even if it sounds a tad like another song?
*sigh* anyone wishing to give tips on how to find out quickly if you've ripped off someone elses riff, feel absolutely free to do so.

then again, i still havnt got round to actually organising the band. have people,mainly singers,am lazy. lacking a drummer though. dunno bout a bassist. meh.

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ok, that was meant to be kinda not kindy, and the site doesnt work.....blame the exhaustion of serving customers for 11 hours straight.

There is no easy way to tell. Well aside from systematically listening to your entire music collection, plus trying to re-expose yourself to every song you've heard on radio or in concert. A good bet would be to play just the riff for some of your musically oriented friends, and see if they pick it as anything. Subconscious borrowing is a shit. It just happens sometimes (or worse yet if you had the idea ages ago, and then someone else comes up with something similar before you make yours public). So you just have to hope that your lyrics and other touches will differentiate your song. Good luck!!

Its all been done before, focus on writing songs that make you happy. Play music to enjoy it, not to think about possible singles. If you write a song that sounds like something else, you can always write another song.

merci mes cheres, yeah definitely agree on the playing for enjoyment thing, its just exciting thinking that maybe your music can take you sumwhere ya know? :) well i like my song so i wont change it, for me, the original copy (of my own work) is better than rewritten perfections.

I the cynic was reading something my cozin gave me about Steve Vai. On one of his albums he has a song he found on a tape, like from when he was playing with David Lee roth or something. So he puts it onto album and gives it a name and then just before album is to be released some musical visiting record company dude listens and says "That is Bangkok, from Chess" (you know the famous musical)
It stayed on the album though.

I the cynic only write words and tell rude jokes
and strum the guitar
though my coz is trying to teach me to play like a shred demon
has anyone ever ripped anything off and later realised?

if anyone knocks your song for sounding like someone elses then I'm sure you could go on forever pointing out all the musical cliches in 80% of the music on the radio and where those songs are derived from. Or, the easy and possibly best reply.... the finger.