Chris, you are a scary looking man.

It's in the pipe chris ....

This guy has obviously enjoyed some long jam sessions at home with his guitar. An awesome dreamy enamble, for greatest effect try with with mind altering substances ...

true bobcat true... forth and multiply... suka and robert scott's new album make a wee 4some of laden warbling lush aural treats... love them all... and take me south.

totally underated by this site's community. vote it up cos I don't want them to fade away. cher.

Nice one fulla's, if you haven't seen jakob lately then you're missing out, they're doing some dates with the subliminals in 2 weeks time including Orientation at Waikato...Jeff, where are J and Maurie in the vid? Next one eh?

why did he call his song: verstaerker (reinforcement). (verstärker). he must be THE MAN (yeah right).
jj

it's german for guitar amp

try crawlspace in AK. it's a bloody good album and they've got an even better 7"!!!

[ www.crawlspace.co.nz ]

I've got the there first cd. Nearly went to sleep listening to it. Discovered there was a hidden track, adout 5 or so minutes after Means. Sweet track guys...when the album comming out. If some one knows ,let me know.

ps. Album out through Midium/Kog

Come to Dunedin. sometime. please

Now i dont mean to pass doubt on jakobs song writing, But has anyone here heard mogwai's song "a cheery wave from stranded youngsters"? The bass riff in that is very similar or almost identical to "a nice day for an earthquake".
Also much of their new album just takes bits from HDU or mogwai like a cover band. Listen to tenrapid by mogwai and you will hear most of jakobs songs in it. Also cross channel multi tap by HDU.
sorry to by a such a wank but still.

yeah I really like Jakob too. They are really great. But i mean why would i want an album of mogwai and HDU covers?
Sure there is some parts which dont sound the same as either HDU or mogwai. But still 98% does.
i was slightly put off by them saying what they were doing was original.

JAKOB

upcoming concerts:
Hamilton @ Wardlane - Friday 12th October
Wellington @ Bodega - Saturday 13th October

also playing:
industrial instrumental electronic band AVOTOR

new releases available now:
AVOTOR - 'illooming' CD EP (Kog Transmissions)
JAKOB - 'subsets of sets' CD full length album (Midium Records)

I won the first Jakob album. So i was like counting the days till the album came out. When i heard it it really upset me. I mean it is very well done. but like i said before just too much of the same thing already done. I mean that bass riff! the tape delay! ARGH! it is all too much.
I mean Dunedin has band's who play the same sorta genre as jakob but dont sound the same: take carriage H and operation rolling thunder. Both fucking wicked bands who sorta play the same genre but when they are down on record you can tel they are totally different. Carriage H more rock and roll punk rock bleeding ears, ORT more drawn out instrumental noise.
but anyway jakob still up there with my favourite bands. But maybe they should listen to something other than HDU and Mogwai

yeah i got to agree. i mean i first heard the new album driving down south in the middle of the night and it was really doing it for me, i mean it was fucking gorgeous and then I got to track 11 which I think is "the collar sets well" and "what the fuck?!!" hdu amino??? it almost fucked the album for me. then i was at the rockquest finals and saw carriage h's set and "what the fuck" hdu??? i mean i'm not begruding them winning or anything but when did originality stop being important? ok so maybe hdu have left that sound behind, the fireworks album seems to be going somewhere else so perhaps it's not such a bad thing to have these bands pick up where they left off, but i'd like them to take it further not just replicate it.

you have to walk before you can run, hdu kept going and as such have moved out of the shadow of bailterspace it seems, not being much of a mogwai fan (much prefer my b/space thanks) i can't comment on the comparisons there. it does seem that jakob have a soul and a character to there music and i bet that in time they will blow minds. i think there shit sounds brilliant the cymbol wash and base hum is nice and intense yeah. i was all set to pick up there album subsets and despite the comments here i think i will?
one time for the bailterespace massive!!
(anyone keen to suggest who influenced the space?)

obscuring your influences isn't the be-all and end-all of music, even in the noiserock ouvre...bands will always somewhat like -someone- else - that's just the nature of everyone using the same tim signatures/instruments/etc. rock n roll bands just get over it and either

[1] embrace their derivativeness and just rock out, or
[2] try putting together a yet-untried -combination- of those influences.

oh and here's conspiracy for you: the '98 jakob EP sounded like momento mori before it was even released. is it just the the limited scope of the tape delay, or are jakob secretly stealing tristan d's thoughts before he even has them?

um, yeh.

i'll still be rocking out to jakob tonight. derivative or no.

yes regardless of the above - they are a "must-see" live act

this topic has given me such a good insight in jakob/subset of sets. much better than the review in rip it up! i've gotta go buy it now - see what all the fuss is about!!

I've thought about this now and then, it is like there are some sounds that are ok to emulate because everyone else does such as your basic rock and then there are the other sounds that are frowned upon. For example the Brit act Zero 7 who sound very similar to Air, I never thought anyone would "copy" Air, it seemed wrong. I think you have to loosen the need for "new" sounds and enjoy the different flavours instead.