Dear The D4

Give back my fucking money.

You sucked.

You were loose. You were boring. You were unoriginal, unexeciting and in no way entertaining. Your mix was shit, your vocals were shit, your stage prescene was forced wanna be rock star bullshit.

You don't deserve the respect you have, because you are a fucking shit, fucking amateur, fucking crap and fucking TERRIBLE band.

Fuck you, give back my fucking money and break up allready. I'm sure the indie rock fashion whores will love your new cd you are releasing. I hope you over charge them for it too.

The songs fucking sucked.

Fuck you.

You aren't even kiwi. Don't claim "it's good to be back in wellington" and say it in a fuckin' british accent.

I'm pissed off. Hard. I could barely fork out the $25 for it. I'm sure it was the same story for the numerous underage girls there, too.

Damnit, FUCK YOU D4.

ps: i wrote this in a blog last night when i was very angry. Yep. angry.
The Mint Chicks ruled. They shat all over D4.

Forums: NZ Music,

british accent? hahahaha...
im going tonight at kings arms..well i was..
hmmm..

haha!!!

ha ha....i thought this looked familiar...

you're so emo sam. I think i'm in love. :oP

ouch! now thats alot of fucks.

i'm probably the biggest cynic of all fashion rock and buzz bands.

i really enjoyed the show and i am not a super fan of either d4 or the mint chicks.

mind you i didn't pay to get in but i still think you're being overly harsh. they definately weren't loose, it was one of the best rock mixes i've heard at indigo and the new songs were great.

have you never seen the d4 before?

they were twice as good last night as any of the other numerous times i've seen them.

i don't know what to say other than 'get over it'.

i don't like the d4, but there is no way they are loose. i think some people are just far too emotional sometimes.

now to totally turn this thread around, this band is fucking fuck fuck!

http://www.mclusky.net ]

i thought they were real good.
not as entertaining as the mint chicks i must say but still very good.
i didnt have high expectations so i wasnt left dissapointed.
i really liked that slow song they played. very sexy.

mclusky=awesome
find of the week!

It's a whole lot easier to say "get over it" when you didn't pay, isn't it? I'm sure it isn't just me that thinks $25 is a shitload of cash.

I had high expectations. They've been playing all over the world. They've played on this show and that show, a range of venues and a range of audiences. This should make them a well rehearsed, "work the stage" band, right?
They weren't.
Hell, they couldn't even sing their dual vocal lines in time.

good to see someone giving these guys the lack of respect they deserve...

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH NEW ZEALANDERS AND TALL POPPY SYNDROME!!
They were tight and i bet they're way better than your band.and if your your not in a band your probably jealous. or a groupie.

But...if you're a groupie, then wouldn't insulting the band defeat the purpose of groupage?

Who ever said groupies had to like the band?
They just want some 'rock 'n' roll cock.'

// They just want some 'rock 'n' roll cock.'

Sounds like you're bitter about something, mate.

Know from experience?

:D

//WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH NEW ZEALANDERS AND TALL POPPY SYNDROME!!
They were tight and i bet they're way better than your band.and if your your not in a band your probably jealous. or a groupie.
//

What is it with Kiwis having to have a positive opinion about a band, regardless of them being shit or not?

Further more, the only thing i can think of to be jealous of The D4, is their gear-which regardless, they still managed to make sound like shit. The bassist was playing an Ampeg, and it sounded like a muddy drone for goodness sake. That's blaspheme!
How would me dissing the band make me a groupie? Are you in denial from experience or something equally as pathetic?

dear schmash,
can you please say your rant to their faces. and when you do, can you please take a photo and post it somewhere on here, cause i'd love to see it.
one must ask the question "why the hefty doorcharge for a not so hefty gig". sommerset and the bleeders played last night at almost half the charge and i bet they didn't have their feet nailed to the stage. maybe the D4 should change the name of their latest single to "sooky bum" and make the subject matter introspective.

I would if i could. i've cooled off now, of course, but at the time, i was pissed off.
I would gladly tell them i felt ripped off and let down. Chances of me doing this, of course, are few.

Sommerset and The Bleeders were fantastic. Sure, a different musical background and belonging, but cheaper, free stickers, better stage set up, great sound, 4 bands and just so much more polished.

Tetsuo, is your name based on the Akira character?

no, it's based Shinya Tsukamoto's Tetsuo - The Ironman sci fi movie from 1992. very good movie though the sequel, Tetsuo II - Body Hammer, was far superior. kinda like a cyberpunk version of the incredible hulk except this guy doesn't turn green, he mutates into metal and his body parts turn into weapons.

haha...tall poppy syndrome...
i think schmash (and to a lesser extent me) are dissing these guys because they don't actually deserve to be taller than the other poppies...

i'm not about to get all horty, but sometimes i wish the cream would rise to the top in new zealand for a change...

Of all the shit that exists in the New Zealand music scene, the D4 is the brownest and smelliest. There have been some totally tragic bands make it on radio and album sales but still be a massive suckfest - Tadpole, anyone? - but the D4 somehow managed to capture the hearts of the big city scenesters as well. I'm with the poppy cutters. These guys have had their day in the sun.

what's up with karen walker outfits and rock gigs lately? can someone tell these girls that soon enough either 'rock n roll' or the unflattering threads of too much walker could be an extreme fashion faux pas in the next five minutes? and then what will happen to all of their calculatively washed out 'vintage' tshirts, and strokes merchandise? i dont mind karen walker but having it shoved down my throat every night brings on the nausea. maybe its time for a little less disposable fashion/music taste and a bit more class/intelligence.

Haha.man it was terrible at that gig!
"Stella I Love YOU!!!"

was that at the wellington gig- auckland gig was surprising was a few oldies there.. also aone really annoying retred man/boy/giant whom got kicked out 3 times - he kicked i guy out of his wheel chair- it was a mess.

yeah but he was more entertaining than the d4

If you payed $25 for the D4 and the mint chicks, you are fucking stupid anyway.

The D4 are SHIT!!!!! The mint chix rules tho!

Haha. Tall Poppy Syndrome my arse. I will freely admit I am quite jealous of the status some NZ bands have, but the D4? No way. I'm not jealous of them, embarrassed is more like it. I would much rather gain a cult status than a short lived flash in the pan with the pre pubescent teen army.

I think the D4 need to put their collective brain cells together ( all four of them ) & come up with a few more words other than " PARTY!!! " and " SATURYDAY NIGHT!!! ". Face it D4, you ain't the NY Dolls & you never will be, you're too boring. You don't even know how to puke.

i guess... although come on, at least theyre not pathetic lil emo whingers...id rather listen to songs about parties and saturday nights then about how daddy doesnt like my pink liberty spikes and mummy isnt going to raise my allowance and how the person i like is already taken and how NO ONE CARES!!! :( :( :( :(

//Face it D4, you ain't the NY Dolls & you never will be

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

With a sound like theirs, how can you evolve as a band.
They only write songs with 3 maybe 4 chords, all the same speed,
with the same theme of drinking a 'Sake Bomb' at a 'Party' on Saturday night.
You cant expand your horizons using the same 4 chords folks......

//You cant expand your horizons using the same 4 chords folks......

you will eventually change your opinion on that.

all the best songs have 3 or 4 chords the songs with two chords are better still... that would be a good name for a band... the three chords

the fish knows

//i guess... although come on, at least theyre not pathetic lil emo whingers...id rather listen to songs about parties and saturday nights then about how daddy doesnt like my pink liberty spikes and mummy isnt going to raise my allowance and how the person i like is already taken and how NO ONE CARES!!! :( :( :( :( //
Songs about parties and shit = D4 are monkeys who can't write proper lyrics. "lil emo whingers" rules!!!

The three classic rock'n'roll subjects are girls, cars and parties. Possibly all in the same song. End of story.

but its almost like the d4 enjoy being the cliche.. i dont see how their sound can evolve either...their songs are so similar that they have dug a hole for themselves

Haaaaaaaaarssshhhhh...come on....the D4 are the D4...lets not kick the shit out of another hard working NZ band...these guys have earnt some respect so give them a little aye?
GET LOOSE!!

Nah.

this is bullshit, d4 are good at what they do, if you dont like what they do then big deal.
I dont like all the hipsters that turn up to shows, its horrible, but you have to have a balance, otherwise you would just have all munters moshing and stuff.
But yea, there is nothing like a bunch of people up the front of a show that arent dancing to bring the vibe of a show down.
i reckon a big problem is photographers at the moment, not that we dont need them or anything, but....
when somone is up the front of a show not dancing and enjoying themselves that can bring the vibe down.

not quite my friend....i love the d4 album, so when the game down to dunedin i paid my money and went to the show. and i agree with everything at the start of this thread. they were sloppy and tired. i still like the album...but i won't pay to see these guys play live again

quick ...is there any other bands knees we can smash before they get to tall....grow the D4 ....grow

Divison said : 'quick ...is there any other bands knees we can smash before they get to tall....grow the D4 ....grow '

Grow up. Everybody seems to think now days that if you give negative (or should I say non-positive) feedback it's tall poppy syndrome - well they can piss off.

So what nobodys allowed to say that a gig was shit? No ones allowed to say what they think?

I've known bands who have applogised for poor performances - so are they also to be label as tall poppy bashers? (even though they're bashing themselves)?

Basically it's useless to bands if the only feedback they get is sugar coated and not honest. Gee I wonder how the D4 would have rated their recent performances - I wonder if they thought they were a bit off colour... it would be interesting to know.

Just as a side point I didn't goto the gig, am not really interested in the D4 at all, couldn't name you one of their songs and couldn't really care less if they played like shit.

What I object to is people being told that becuase their opinion is negative they should fuck off cause they're trying to cut someone down. Negative feedback has nothing to do with tallpoppy syndrome (whatever the fuck that is, stupid label for a stupid idea) and has everything to do with honesty.

If you can't handle someones honest opinion then maybe, just maybe you should shut the fuck up.

(Of course this is just my opinion which you [anybody] are more than welcome to ignore]

//Negative feedback has nothing to do with tall poppy syndrome (whatever the fuck that is, stupid label for a stupid idea) and has everything to do with honesty.

True. But there is a difference between saying hey they weren't good live and the fucking sucked (insert more unnecessary fucks and shits here) while just abusing the band with out backing it up with facts in a proper argument. I think that feedback is always a good thing for a band, whether it’s good or bad.

More and more the mint chicks will get slammed by the more popular the get and then the next cool underground thing that comes along the same thing will happen. Which has happened to both the D4 and the Datsuns, which could also be that their new album wasn’t the old one.

Maybe it’s not so much a tall poppy thing but an elitist thing. I don't know, that’s just my opinion.

//I don't know, that’s just my opinion.

Man, you've sold out. You used to be so badass.

//Man, you've sold out. You used to be so badass.

Nah, not really I just grew up.

awww look jimi and matt are playing nice

aka can't you feel the boy muscian tension?

//Nah, not really I just grew up

Ah, cool. Obviously from my comment I haven't but it'd be cool to meet you someday.

do i sense a little agression there fella...calm down....big deap breath now............thats better....you ok?.....you need a blanky or some warm milk?