Is it okay to pretend to be a chick online and...

what should i do? :P
//[quote="pulsations"]wanna chat on msn sometime? I'm meant to be studying.. got exams on Fri and Sat but I'm listening to music instead! Any study tips? lol :p.[/quote]//

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homo

Now Ronald.. We all know that that was not a nice thing to say.. Tut Tut

what if its true?? can't it be nice?? is there something wrong in being a homo??

There is. If you think sticking your dick in another dudes ass is the right thing to do, there is something wrong with you.

what gives you the right to say what is right & what is wrong?? whatever they do in their own bedroom is their own fucking business not yours. Do you really think they're gonna to get you & rape you??

It's fascinating to me just how it's the homophobes that bang on (pun intended), in really graphic terms, about sodomy. It's as if they really relish thinking about it. Sodomy isn't the defining factor of a homosexual.

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// If you think sticking your dick in another dudes ass is the right thing to do, there is something wrong with you.

But your cool if i stick my dick in a girls ass right?
Just wanting to clear that up with you.

Ass on a girl is all good.

//There is. If you think sticking your dick in another dudes ass is the right thing to do, there is something wrong with you.

no, there is something seriously wrong with u if u are too blind to see that sex is sex, love is love... and it doesnt matter if its between 2 guys, 2 girls, or one of each. people like you make me want to scream and throw things.

Haha, Grim_entropy is such a takererer in the butt.

Closet case!

But that's cool dude, be who you were born to be!

i was actually meaning "pulsations" was a homo
if ur pretending to be a girl online you might be a bit gay

bahahaha, brilliant, my bad

...Whatever, if u all wanna support gays go ahead and do so. I have a different oppinion to you.

sounds like ur a closet homo, go have sodomy already!

Dim_Anthropy

Grow up dude...

Theres nothing wrong with being a homo! But to imply the fact that Emokid was a homo was not nice. From what we know, Emokid is not an open homo. So to call her/Him a homo without knowing his/her sexual orientation i find is actually quite offencive. People who are "Homo's" Probably could agree that the use of that word was inapropriate? I'm just saying in my opinion that another word could have been used instead of one that is a derogatory comment towards Homosexuals

Did i make that understandable?

Please don't bite off my head!

So it'd be acceptable if emokid was openly gay?

What would be acceptable?

for Ronald James to call emokid a homo.

Umm.. In my opinion.. Probably yes.. I dunno actually.. It depends if Emokid was offended my the term homo.. If you were openly gay and someone called you a homo to put you down, would you take it to offence?

Nope, I dont think they are gonna rape me, but as you said, they should leave their stuff in the bedroom and not go protest their rights and shit.

uh, how so, some of the things they want are basic human rights that other people take for granted. Especially financial and hospital related things.

but as for the whole is it okay to pretend to be a girl online, other than it being kind of sad, its not very good if the other person is being sincere when they talk to you.

//There is. If you think sticking your dick in another dudes ass is the right thing to do, there is something wrong with you.//

reality hurts but nobody's open to the idea that they might just be fucked in the head, in terms of the sexuality anyway..... Yep you said it, wanting to do that is ...strange...

//Ass on a girl is all good - grim_entropy

// reality hurts but nobody's open to the idea that they might just be fucked in the head, in terms of the sexuality anyway

You've got a great line in speaking for other people.

ask any gay mates of yours if they have had 'relations' with women. Most gays have, hell many have children. what does that say about 'orientation', and please don't tell me they 'did it to feel accepted', do you really think you could get jiggy wth a man in a alt. reality gay world just to be accepted?

It tells me sexuality is not as simple as you are 100% this or that. It tells me they may have once IDENTIFIED themselves as straight or bisexual. Nothing in life is ever exactly this or that, that's just a lie to make politicians lives easier.

There are certain people who spend a lot of time and energy telling people on this site exactly how gay they aren't why is that?

Rdor - what you've written contradicts my experiences and those of many of my gay mates.

Also getting jiggy is not a good way of determining sexuality. I know you'll be going "what the fuck?" but presumably you would never say someone is not straight until they get it on with someone of the other sex.

I know straight bods who have had various kinds of sexual contact with the same sex, likewise gay bods who have have had various kinds of sexual contact with the same sex. Neither bunch would say they were bi because they only get silly giggly crushes on one sex or t'other...

//what you've written contradicts my experiences

and mine. i can see where you're coming from, cos i was there myself once - how Queen Victoria thought when presented with legislation outlawing lesbians - she refused to sign because she thought it just wasn't possible or do-able.

but just because you can't comprehend it, doesn't mean that it isn't illogical, and absolutely enjoyed by a huge number of different people around the world.

i still don't know what i am, but don't really care much about finding a specific label/place - gender in who i'm attracted to means nowt to me - it's as arbitrary as hair colour (and i definitely prefer brunettes, but don't ever rule out blondes or redheads) - gender is a category which doesn't make any sense in saying "off limits" to me. people are nice, and i like some people. but that's just me.

you may not understand it, and it might seem like mental illness to you, but it's absolutely perfectly logical to me, and i don't think your heterosexuality is narrow or illogical or limited - it's just who you are too. like i prefer brunettes, you prefer the opposite sex. that's just the way you are - problem is, that's just the way society is - it was a big freaking day of exploding three-dimensionality and colour when i realised that i didn't have to think like Queen Vic anymore, things could be done, and the way the whole of society seems to think in majority is not a dead end.

//Also getting jiggy is not a good way of determining sexuality//

I can tell you honestly that I physically couldn't get an boner over a man, I'm guessing it's the same for most straight people, no repression, the desire just isn't there. But gays can have sex with the opposite gender no probs, they just prefer other men/women. Doesn't that tell you that it isn't a simple reversal of heterosexuality, but something in addition to it, a form of bisexuality, and bisexuality is fucked up - to find two opposites physically attractive is mental...

Could you shag an ugly chick?

//two opposites

i think that's where the problem is - that i don't think men and women are opposites, and you do.

i mean, you get people who are quite masculine, but their gender happens to be female. or guys who have feminine traits - perhaps defined as introspective, aware of others emotions, quiet ...

gender isn't cut and dried male or female to me. there's a lot of cross-over exhibited by behaviour - people can act one way one day, and partially another way the next day, because that is their personality.

what people have between their legs has nothing to do with how they act. and i find others attractive not because of what they have between their legs, but due to how they act, and a certain set of criteria concerning how they look (that doesn't include gender, or a concrete set of masculine or feminine traits).

i don't know that we are ever gonna reach an understanding on this ... but perhaps we don't need to. i find it odd that you think i'm mental or insane or fucked up because of who i might happen to find attractive.

define ugly

you dont look at the
mantlepiece
when youre stoking the fire

but man and women are different, not just in a butch vs feminine way. Sexuality exists in part because of such subtle differences, you find whats missing in you in someone of the opposite gender. The fascination with the 'other'. Your right in that I can't percieve desire oustide of this..

// But gays can have sex with the opposite gender no probs, they just prefer other men/women

You've just repeated an assertion that I've already said contradicts my own experience. Reads to me the same way as you described rope's posts this morning.

You keep doing this, and it's what I initially complained about, not about your views on sexuality and so on.

//you find whats missing in you in someone of the opposite gender.

i see what you mean with the first bit, but it doesn't apply for me with the second part of that sentence.

my mate who's in developmental psych says it's a theory that's not given much credence these days though. yeah, it applies in terms of you teaming up with someone who has a different immune system - that's important for offspring, but there's another theory - it was shown real quick in a couple of documentaries - the one about the face (starring John Cleese) - they took his facial traits and embedded them in a range of people - the ones he thought were attractive were the ones who had his checkbones, eyes etc.

so this theory proposes that we look for a little of our parents' attributes in prospective partners. i think i saw a similar experiment in the Body Hits series as well - i dunno if it's true, but what you theorise and this theory sound perfectly plausible to me ... but i don't know that it applies to gender per se.

in my experience, i don't find what's missing in me in people i find attractive, not all the time. especially not with women - i tend to go (as far as surface appearances go) for women like me - curvy, brunette, swear like troopers, and as far as guys go, i like slender, quiet pretty-boy gazelles. well, that's the trend anyway, generally speaking.

as shown throughout nature, there are societial reasons for bisexuality and homosexuality - it might not have much to do with genes and passing them on, but these dymanics forge relationships that make the community stronger. i guess we humans rationalise it in comparison ... there was a recent New Scientist article on how the 'gay' gene is passed on ... but it's too early in the day to summarise it.

// tend to go (as far as surface appearances go) for women like me - curvy, brunette, swear like troopers, and as far as guys go, i like slender, quiet pretty-boy gazelles. well, that's the trend anyway, generally speaking.

Oi, stop hunting in my territory!

ratioanalise it how you want, if you like you can explain all human behavior through a combination of genetics and environment but if your not at least open to the possiblity that some human tendencies are 'mental' and just plain self centred thne your as bigoted as I am. Like for instace using another person for sex whenour not interested in a long term relationship with them. That's wrong. using someone body as a masturbation aid. But it's also very common gay or straight thing to do, but being a bigot, I would also think something similar about bisexuality, that fact that its doenst discriminate sounds like it's all about sex Unless I'm wrong and ther a heaps of bi's living asg commited couples

rdor, while I'm not discounting your ideas completely, the problem with your argument is your blanket assumption that the revulsion you feel about the notion of being attracted to another man must be the way *everyone* feels - unless they've somehow suffered some terrible mental trauma.

You're automatically discarding any pro-gay *firsthand experience* that may help shed some light on the psychology of homosexuality, purely because that experience comes from homosexuals (who are by definition either sick in the head, or just lying). You must see that's completely unscientific?

There we go again...

// but if your not at least open to the possiblity that some human tendencies are 'mental' and just plain
// self centred thne your as bigoted as I am.

See, that's a big "if". Who has said they are not open to that possibility?

If I say the things you think are shit are OK, that is NOT the same as saying everything is OK.

//that fact that its doenst discriminate sounds like it's all about sex

oh, yeah, i discriminate. i'm super picky when it comes to finding people attractive, very super picky. being bi just means i don't discriminate between genders. i just have a very high standard of beauty, and i happen to find it in either gender. doesn't make my idea of beauty more prolific or common or easier to find than someone else's idea of beauty. doesn't increase my pool of potential mates by 2 either.

//by 2

i mean doubled.

actually, there are people out there who are all sex sex sex, but i dunno if orientation is the way to spot them.

possibly, but there's something to be said for being outside the mainstream - when you realise you are a little different to the convention, i know that some people suddenly realise they can reinterpret the rules of engagement and decide to have open relationships, casual relationships etc. because you feel that you are outside of the mainstream and can hook up with likeminded others who want similar things. inevitably, coming out can mean that those thoughts cross your mind, but i wouldn't call them self-centred myself, and i don't think everyone who comes out ever wants to act upon them or always want to avoid committed relationships.

again, this is just me - i hope not talking on behalf of the whole bi community or anything. i just happen to be picky and in a committed relationship.

//i know that some people suddenly realise they can reinterpret the rules of engagement and decide to have open relationships, casual relationships etc. //

But is it possible for mentally healthly people to use each other that way? Is that good?

Both parties are playing with the same rules then its all good.

only if you pretend to be a hot chick, there's enough REAL ugly chicks out there already, we don't need any fake ones.

and some of us are ten times the man you'll ever be

this is the kind of rubbish that makes people not want to visit this website so much. (well me anyway) this is exactly the kind of crap that should be moderated. i suggest putting a bit of 'fuck off you idiots' into the moderating.

eg.

emokid - why are my posts being deleted?

moderator - because you are stupid. grow up or fuck off.

works for me.

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